# What is it with men and sexual abuse of children? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 18, 2012, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595 "2012-07-18T04:01:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![LadyMadonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb8c5e/32.png) [@LadyMadonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LadyMadonna)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/221 "2012-08-20T18:21:27Z")
> [@Who\_me\_1](#): > > No, you haven’t. You’ve suggested women supervising men. Women have been known to molest children too, so now you’ve just run out of people to do the supervising. Yes, I have. And I quote myself: “We could start with some simple things, such as no longer allowing male coaches, male teachers (etc) to be alone with our children. If the kids’ activities involve sleepovers, there should be sufficient female chaperones. Don’t allow children to visit the “nice old couple down the street” without supervision. And mothers need to be a hell of a lot more vigilant than they are now. Especially about what goes on in her own home.” We’ve covered this topic of female abusers. It’s a known fact that men far outnumber women in the sexual abuse department. ---
**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/222 "2012-08-20T18:24:52Z")
> [@LadyMadonna](#): > > Sounds promising, but I find it hard to believe. What I find hard to believe is that you think anyone here (especially by now) **cares** what you find hard to believe. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/223 "2012-08-20T18:27:20Z")
**LadyMadonna** - What percentage of men, in your estimation, are potential abusers? Just a guess will do. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/224 "2012-08-20T18:27:31Z")
> [@LadyMadonna](#): > > Yes, I have. And I quote myself: > > “We could start with some simple things, such as no longer allowing male coaches, male teachers (etc) to be alone with our children. If the kids’ activities involve sleepovers, there should be sufficient female chaperones. Don’t allow children to visit the “nice old couple down the street” without supervision. And mothers need to be a hell of a lot more vigilant than they are now. Especially about what goes on in her own home.” > > We’ve covered this topic of female abusers. It’s a known fact that men far outnumber women in the sexual abuse department. And where are you going to find all these women to supervise? And how are you going to pay them? ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/225 "2012-08-20T18:30:11Z")
"It’s a known fact that men far outnumber women in the sexual abuse department. " - **Lady Madonna** Well, just to throw some of your own bad medicine back at ya, (paraphrasing some of your earlier posts): how can we trust the statistics? And how do we know that all those women aren’t \*thinking about \*molesting children? ---
**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/226 "2012-08-20T18:31:31Z")
> [@LadyMadonna](#): > > We could start with some simple things, such as no longer allowing male coaches, male teachers (etc) to be alone with our children. If the kids’ activities involve sleepovers, there should be sufficient female chaperones. Don’t allow children to visit the “nice old couple down the street” without supervision. And mothers need to be a hell of a lot more vigilant than they are now. Especially about what goes on in her own home. My wife’s mother is like you. She has totaly fucked up the life of her two daughters. They can’t hold a job or any serious relationhip, not just with men. They are touroughly afraid of the outside world. You are a very dangerous person and I think you should be prevented from having contact with children. ---
**Author:** ![LadyMadonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb8c5e/32.png) [@LadyMadonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LadyMadonna)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/227 "2012-08-20T18:36:15Z")
> [@Freakenstein](#): > > Hotdiggity, I got it! Had to log in just to ask this. And **LadyMadonna** , don’t You even think to have dishonesty to ignore this. > > So: if the vast majority of men want to abuse children, then why it is considered abuse at all? Who caused that way of thinking, why isn’t it considered just as innocent as having a doughnut? > 50 % of men and many thousands of years of patriarchate should have done the trick. > > Thank You for Your answer. I’m most eager to read it. > > Btw You’re an idiot. You’re an idiot for even posing this question. It’s considered abuse because we are HUMAN. Sexual abuse causes toxic damage to a person’s psyche. And I never said that the VAST MAJORITY of men want to abuse children. I said that the vast majority of the perpetrators are male. The problem is that we don’t know which men will offend, and which ones won’t. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/228 "2012-08-20T18:36:54Z")
> [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > "It’s a known fact that men far outnumber women in the sexual abuse department. " - **Lady Madonna** > Well, just to throw some of your own bad medicine back at ya, (paraphrasing some of your earlier posts): how can we trust the statistics? And how do we know that all those women aren’t \*thinking about \*molesting children? And how do we know that sexual abuse by women isn’t vastly underreported vis a vis by men? ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/229 "2012-08-20T18:37:10Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > **LadyMadonna** - What percentage of men, in your estimation, are potential abusers? Just a guess will do. 100%. Just being a man will be enough to be an abuser. I once saw a male teacher _actually look_ at a 13 year old girl once… disgraceful! ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/230 "2012-08-20T18:37:38Z")
> [@LadyMadonna](#): > > Not to mention the sharpened cypress! Besides, it’s plain damn rude behavior. What’s rude is your stupid fucking ideas and not having the damn sense to keep them and yourself away from the rest of the world. Go back to eating your own shit while you masturbate feriously to your thoughts of men raping little kids. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/231 "2012-08-20T18:38:29Z")
> [@LadyMadonna](#): > > You’re an idiot for even posing this question. It’s considered abuse because we are HUMAN. Sexual abuse causes toxic damage to a person’s psyche. > > And I never said that the VAST MAJORITY of men want to abuse children. I said that the vast majority of the perpetrators are male. The problem is that we don’t know which men will offend, and which ones won’t. So treat us all as if we were convicted… ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/232 "2012-08-20T18:41:54Z")
Color me surprised. I never knew that the vast majority of abusers being male necessarily and logically meant that the vast majority of males were abusers. ---
**Author:** ![LadyMadonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb8c5e/32.png) [@LadyMadonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LadyMadonna)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/233 "2012-08-20T18:49:56Z")
Okay, I’m done with this. Most people recognize that child sexual abuse is a serious problem. But too many posters on this thread are more driven to amuse others (and themselves) with their creative banter, than to address possible resolutions. Hope you all have a good week, and hope your children stay safe. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/234 "2012-08-20T18:50:57Z")
> [@LadyMadonna](#): > > Okay, I’m done with this. Most people recognize that child sexual abuse is a serious problem. But too many posters on this thread are more driven to amuse others (and themselves) with their creative banter, than to address possible resolutions. > > Hope you all have a good week, and hope your children stay safe. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/235 "2012-08-20T18:51:21Z")
Substitute “brown” or “black” for “man”, and we come around to racial profiling. I’m sure we all know how effective that’s been proven to be. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/236 "2012-08-20T18:51:58Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Color me surprised. I never knew that the vast majority of abusers being male necessarily and logically meant that the vast majority of males were abusers. You’re missing her point. It’s not that “that the vast majority of males were abusers,” it is “that the vast majority of males must be _treated as_ abusers” despite their personal thoughts or actions. And maybe a shock collar can be used to free up some of the women’s supervisory time. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/237 "2012-08-20T18:54:15Z")
> [@LadyMadonna](#): > > Okay, I’m done with this. Most people recognize that child sexual abuse is a serious problem. But too many posters on this thread are more driven to amuse others (and themselves) with their creative banter, than to address possible resolutions. > > Hope you all have a good week, and hope your children stay safe. We do recognize abuse as a serious issue. We do recognize placing all men on restricticve probation as a solution. ---
**Author:** ![Freakenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b782af/32.png) [@Freakenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freakenstein)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/238 "2012-08-20T18:58:53Z")
> [@LadyMadonna](#): > > You’re an idiot for even posing this question. It’s considered abuse because we are HUMAN Really? Which humans are You talking about? Women? Or that 0% of men? ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/239 "2012-08-20T19:01:23Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > We do recognize abuse as a serious issue. **We do recognize placing all men on restricticve probation as a solution.** I’m going to assume the bolded part should have a NOT somewhere in it. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595/240 "2012-08-20T19:04:10Z")
> [@LadyMadonna](#): > > Hope you all have a good week, and hope your children stay safe. As long as they are girls. The boys are all psychopathic predators anyway, right? No reason to care about them, they’re probably raping their sisters when you aren’t looking. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-it-with-men-and-sexual-abuse-of-children/628595.md?page=13)