# What is Junior Modding?

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**Created:** [August 20, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306 "2015-08-20T01:23:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/1 "2015-08-20T01:23:40Z")

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It was suggested by another poster that I take this here, so here it is.

Maybe I am misunderstanding the rules, but isn’t this an example of junior modding, especially the bolded part?

> [@Sandra Bland video](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sandra-bland-video/725859/1831):
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> Indeed, and they deserve a jolly good Pitting. Luckily, we have a special place for that, **and this isn’t it.**

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18615690#post18615690](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18615690#post18615690)

Note, this is different than suggesting that a General Questions post is really asking for opinions, or that a sad personal situation should be in the Mundane forum. I’ve seen both of these reasons used by **moderators,** to move posts.

Seems to me that the post in question was just snark, for the sake of snark, in Great Debates, by a **non-moderator.**

So is that an example of junior modding, according to board rules?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/2 "2015-08-20T01:55:51Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> It was suggested by another poster that I take this here, so here it is.
> 
> Maybe I am misunderstanding the rules, but isn’t this an example of junior modding, especially the bolded part?
> 
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18615690#post18615690](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18615690#post18615690)  
> Note, this is different than suggesting that a General Questions post is really asking for opinions, or that a sad personal situation should be in the Mundane forum. I’ve seen both of these reasons used by **moderators,** to move posts.
> 
> Seems to me that the post in question was just snark, for the sake of snark, in Great Debates, by a **non-moderator.**
> 
> So is that an example of junior modding, according to board rules?

I’d say no, due to how it was worded, but it’s sorta close.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/3 "2015-08-20T02:05:00Z")

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There actually is a [definition of Junior Modding.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=320298)

> [@](#):
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> Junior Modding – When someone who is not a moderator asserts that something is a violation of SDMB rules. This usurps the role of moderators, who are the arbiters of rules and posting standards on the SDMB. At one end, “junior modding” is annoying and arrogant; at the other end, it’s a rules violation and warnable offense. (There are forms of “junior modding” that are helpful: reporting spam and posting that you’ve done so, or making helpful suggestions to new posters, for example.) NOTE: If you see what you think is a rules violation, don’t make the judgement call yourself, but click on the REPORT button (little ! in red triangle in upper right of post) and let the mods decide.

Based on that, I’d agree it’s snark, but falls short of junior modding.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/4 "2015-08-20T02:09:10Z")

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He wasn’t telling you to do anything. It was a bit of snark for derailing the thread.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/5 "2015-08-20T02:11:42Z")

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Oh dear, I hope D’Anconia hit the report post button…

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/6 "2015-08-20T05:13:17Z")

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Junior modding is all the bossing people around that you would like to do, when done by somebody else.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/7 "2015-08-20T07:44:32Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Maybe I am misunderstanding the rules, but isn’t this an example of junior modding, especially the bolded part?
> 
> \<snip\>
> 
> Seems to me that the post in question was just snark, for the sake of snark, in Great Debates, by a **non-moderator.**

Huh? So, which is it? Junior Modding or Snark?

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/8 "2015-08-20T13:24:59Z")

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Is suggesting that snark has no place in Great Debates by **non-moderators** (which I assume is worse than if committed by simple “non-moderators”) in fact another form of junior modding?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/9 "2015-08-20T14:04:06Z")

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It’s like regular modding, but it comes with a toy surprise.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/10 "2015-08-20T14:35:01Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> It’s like regular modding, but it comes with a toy surprise.

You get one free at Subway with a foot-long.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/11 "2015-08-20T19:43:10Z")

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That’s what you get for reading some posters. There’s a reason God gave you a scroll wheel.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/12 "2015-08-20T19:48:53Z")

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Many of us admire Steve Jobs, but I think you’re taking that admiration a bit too far…

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/13 "2015-08-20T20:41:32Z")

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Mods enjoy it with [York Peppermint Patties](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/York_Peppermint_Pattie).  
Junior Mods enjoy it with [Junior Mints](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Mints).  
The rest of us just have [Andes Mints](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andes_Chocolate_Mints).

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/14 "2015-08-20T21:22:49Z")

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The mods answered this last year:

> [@Clarification of "junior modding"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-of-junior-modding/694703/1):
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> …  
> And, just to be clear, the following has never been considered “junior modding”:
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> - Telling someone to act like an adult (This could be an insult, depends on circs, but it’s not junior modding.)  
> **- Suggesting a forum change**
> - Noting clear spam (and noting that it was reported)

How you get junior modding out of \*\*elucidator’s \*\*post is a bit baffling.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/15 "2015-08-20T22:13:02Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> The mods answered this last year:  
> How you get junior modding out of \*\*elucidator’s \*\*post is a bit baffling.

I read “Suggesting a forum change” differently than you do, I guess.

If a new poster starts a thread in GQ about the upcoming “Fear the Walking Dead” premiere, another poster suggesting that the thread would get more comments in Café is talking about the thread, not the poster.

In a thread that’s already got 1800 posts, telling another user that a particular comment within the thread should be made elsewhere does seem like junior modding, and an attack (albeit a mild one) against the poster, not the post.

Maybe one of the current moderators will check in?

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**Author:** ![camille](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@camille](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/camille)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/16 "2015-08-20T22:36:37Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> I read “Suggesting a forum change” differently than you do, I guess.
> 
> If a new poster starts a thread in GQ about the upcoming “Fear the Walking Dead” premiere, another poster suggesting that the thread would get more comments in Café is talking about the thread, not the poster.
> 
> In a thread that’s already got 1800 posts, telling another user that a particular comment within the thread should be made elsewhere does seem like junior modding, and an attack (albeit a mild one) against the poster, not the post.
> 
> Maybe one of the current moderators will check in?

Now you’re calling it an _attack_?

Were you following the current conversation? Some posters were arguing about what some other posters had claimed way back in the beginning of the thread. The people they were arguing with _were not those posters_. Why keep bringing them up, when they haven’t come back to the thread?

When you popped in to echo that they should be responsible to defend their claims, **elucidator** _suggested_ that you should Pit them, since no one can force them to come back to the thread, and _the other posters were tired of hearing complaints about something they themselves never said_.

Yes, it was a reply to your post, but\* meant for everyone who had been saying the same thing\*. You just happened to be the last straw.

You’re making way too much out of nothing. Really.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/17 "2015-08-21T04:46:22Z")

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> [@camille](#):
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> Now you’re calling it an _attack_?
> 
> Were you following the current conversation? Some posters were arguing about what some other posters had claimed way back in the beginning of the thread. The people they were arguing with _were not those posters_. Why keep bringing them up, when they haven’t come back to the thread?
> 
> When you popped in to echo that they should be responsible to defend their claims, **elucidator** _suggested_ that you should Pit them, since no one can force them to come back to the thread, and _the other posters were tired of hearing complaints about something they themselves never said_.
> 
> Yes, it was a reply to your post, but\* meant for everyone who had been saying the same thing\*. You just happened to be the last straw.
> 
> You’re making way too much out of nothing. Really.

Can we posters, as a general course of business, tell other posters which threads or forums they can post in?

That is the question.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/18 "2015-08-21T05:03:23Z")

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Waitaminute, _FEAR the Walking Dead?_

WTH happened to just _The Walking Dead_?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/19 "2015-08-21T05:17:11Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> I read “Suggesting a forum change” differently than you do, I guess.
> 
> If a new poster starts a thread in GQ about the upcoming “Fear the Walking Dead” premiere, another poster suggesting that the thread would get more comments in Café is talking about the thread, not the poster.
> 
> In a thread that’s already got 1800 posts, telling another user that a particular comment within the thread should be made elsewhere does seem like junior modding, and an attack (albeit a mild one) against the poster, not the post.
> 
> Maybe one of the current moderators will check in?

When I have had a question of that nature, my tendency has generally been to simply report the post, explaining that I thought junior modding might be going on, and requesting feedback if I was mistaken. IME, the mods are usually responsive to requests for feedback. I find it useful to get educated about which posts are (and which are not) worthy of being reported.

Besides which, since junior modding is against the rules, I look upon public accusations of junior modding as being junior modding themselves.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-junior-modding/728306/20 "2015-08-21T05:41:26Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> When I have had a question of that nature, my tendency has generally been to simply report the post, explaining that I thought junior modding might be going on, and requesting feedback if I was mistaken. IME, the mods are usually responsive to requests for feedback. I find it useful to get educated about which posts are (and which are not) worthy of being reported.
> 
> Besides which, since junior modding is against the rules, I look upon public accusations of junior modding as being junior modding themselves.

You and your crazy “acting like a grownup” shtick!

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