# What is left in the still classified JFK assassination files? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 29, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493 "2021-10-29T23:32:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/161 "2022-01-08T07:44:20Z")
Do you agree that people in this very thread have claimed that Ruby killed Oswald because he was upset with the JFK assassination? If you agree that people have claimed that, here are some contradictory statements from people who knew Ruby > Schiem also noted several people who knew Ruby, who claimed that the patriotic statements Ruby professed were quite out of character. Harry Hall, Ruby’s partner in a gambling operation, told the FBI that “Ruby was the type who was interested in any way to make money” and also said that he “could not conceive of Ruby doing anything out of patriotism”.[[72]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-72)[[58]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-auto1-58) Jack Kelly, who had known Ruby casually since 1943, “scoffed at the idea of a patriotic motive being involved by Ruby in the slaying of Oswald”, and reportedly stated that he “could not see Ruby” killing Oswald “out of patriotism” but “for publicity or … for money”.[[58]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-auto1-58) > Jada, a stripper at Ruby’s club, in an interview with [ABC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Broadcasting_Company)’s Paul Good, remarked “I believe he [Ruby] disliked [Bobby Kennedy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Kennedy)”.[[58]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-auto1-58) > Ruby’s friend, Paul Jones, told the FBI that “he doubted that he [Ruby] would have become emotionally upset and killed Oswald on the spur of the moment. He felt Ruby would have done it for money.”[[58]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-auto1-58) You can believe or not that these are true or that they contradict the “Ruby was upset” narrative. The fact is that not everything aligns well in the official narrative ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/162 "2022-01-08T07:47:21Z")
> [@Polerius](#): > > If you agree that people have claimed that, here are some contradictory statements from people who knew Ruby You’re leaving out the parts of your own cite that say the exact opposite. > [@](#): > > The [Warren Commission](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Commission) found no evidence linking Ruby’s killing of Oswald with any broader conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy.[[20]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-WCR-C6-20) In 1964, the Warren Commission provided a detailed biography of Ruby’s life and activities to help ascertain whether he was involved in a conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy.[[50]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-FOOTNOTEReport_of_the_President's_Commission_on_the_Assassination_of_President_John_F._Kennedy,_Appendix_161964779-50) The Commission indicated that there was not a “significant link between Ruby and [organized crime](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized_crime)”[[51]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-FOOTNOTEReport_of_the_President's_Commission_on_the_Assassination_of_President_John_F._Kennedy,_Appendix_161964801-51) and said he acted independently in killing Oswald.[[52]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-52)[[20]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-WCR-C6-20): 373–374 > > Warren Commission investigator [David Belin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Belin) said that postal inspector Harry Holmes arrived unannounced at the Dallas police station on the morning that Ruby shot Oswald and, upon invitation by the investigators, had questioned Oswald, thus delaying his transfer by half an hour.[[53]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-Belin-53) Belin concluded that, had Ruby been part of a conspiracy, he would have been downtown 30 minutes earlier, when Oswald had been scheduled to be transferred.[[53]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-Belin-53) > > In [Gerald Posner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Posner)’s book _Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK_ , Ruby’s friends, relatives and associates claimed that he was upset over President Kennedy’s death, even crying on occasions and closing his clubs for three days as a mark of respect.[[54]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-Posner_Case_Closed-54) They also disputed the conspiracy claims, saying that Ruby’s connection with gangsters was minimal at most and that he was not the sort of person who would be entrusted with an important assassination as part of a high-level conspiracy.[[54]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-Posner_Case_Closed-54) > … > Dallas reporter Tony Zoppi, who knew Ruby well, claimed that one “would have to be crazy” to entrust Ruby with anything as important as a high-level plot to kill Kennedy since he “couldn’t keep a secret for five minutes … Jack was one of the most talkative guys you would ever meet. He’d be the worst fellow in the world to be part of a conspiracy, because he just plain talked too much.”[[54]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-Posner_Case_Closed-54): 361, 399 He and others described Ruby as the sort who enjoyed being at “the center of attention”, trying to make friends with people and being more of a nuisance.[[54]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-Posner_Case_Closed-54) > > Some writers, including former Los Angeles District Attorney [Vincent Bugliosi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Bugliosi), dismiss Ruby’s connections to organized crime as being highly minimal: “It is very noteworthy that without exception, not one of these conspiracy theorists knew or had ever met Jack Ruby. Without our even resorting to his family and roommate, all of whom think the suggestion of Ruby being connected to the mob is ridiculous, those who knew him, unanimously and without exception, think the notion of his being connected to the Mafia, and then killing Oswald for them, is nothing short of laughable.”[[56]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-56) > > Bill Alexander, who prosecuted Ruby for Oswald’s murder, equally rejected any suggestions that Ruby was involved with organized crime, claiming that conspiracy theorists based it on the claim that “A knew B, and Ruby knew B back in 1950, so he must have known A, and that must be the link to the conspiracy.”[[54]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-Posner_Case_Closed-54) > > Ruby’s brother Earl denied allegations that Jack was involved in racketeering Chicago nightclubs, and author Gerald Posner suggested that witnesses may have confused Ruby with Harry Rubenstein, a convicted Chicago felon.[[54]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-Posner_Case_Closed-54) Entertainment reporter Tony Zoppi was also dismissive of mob ties. He knew Ruby and described him as a “born loser”.[[54]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-Posner_Case_Closed-54) > … > > He also claimed he shot Oswald on the spur of the moment when the opportunity presented itself, without considering any reason for doing so.[[43]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-Testimony_JR_v5-43): 199 Ruby told the FBI he was “in mourning” Friday and Saturday. He said he cried when he heard the President was shot, “cried a great deal” Saturday afternoon and was depressed Saturday night. He explained that this grief was caused by his great love for the President and his sympathy for the Kennedy family. The anguish over the assassination, Ruby stated, finally “reached the point of insanity”, suddenly compelling him to shoot when Oswald walked to the police ramp that Sunday morning.[[58]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-auto1-58) At the time of the shooting, Ruby said he was taking [phenmetrazine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenmetrazine), a [central nervous system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_nervous_system) [stimulant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulant).[[43]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-Testimony_JR_v5-43): 198–199 Ruby broke into tears at his bond hearing in January 1964, as he talked to reporters regarding the assassination of President Kennedy. His voice breaking, Ruby said that he could not understand “how a great man like that could be lost”. According to an unnamed [Associated Press](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Press) source, Ruby made a final statement from his hospital bed on December 19, 1966, that he alone had been responsible for the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald.[[59]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby#cite_note-59) “There is nothing to hide … There was no one else,” Ruby said.[[60]] > [@Polerius](#): > > The fact is that not everything aligns well in the official narrative By “the official narrative”, of course, you mean the broad scholarly consensus based on 60 years of research, evidence, and testimony, which you are attempting to belittle by caricaturing it as “what THEY want you to think”. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/163 "2022-01-08T16:00:05Z")
One thing that I’ve never heard asked, let alone answered. If you’re a gunman shooting at a target would you prefer to shoot at a target advancing toward you or one receding away, given that the natural tendency of the driver of a vehicle taking fire would be to attempt to accelerate . Then why not shoot when the motorcade was proceeding up Houston street rather than waiting until it had turned and was driving _away_ along Elm? One logical reason (albeit not the only one possible) would be to coordinate with a second shooter stationed elsewhere. Here’s a map to assist in visualizing what I’m talking about. [The Grassy Knoll - JfK Assassination](https://ciakilledjfk.weebly.com/the-grassy-knoll.html) ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/164 "2022-01-08T16:40:01Z")
It’s been asked, and answered, in this thread: > [@Moriarty](#): > > This is the same reason that Oswald shooting Kennedy as he drove towards the depository isn’t sensible - Oswald would be shooting through the front window of the large limousine, whereas the shot he did take gave him an unobstructed view of the back of Kennedy’s head. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/165 "2022-01-08T17:07:31Z")
That, and the supposed “grassy knoll” was openly visible-you couldn’t hide Billy Barty with a slingshot there, let alone a sniper with a rifle. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/166 "2022-01-08T17:55:00Z")
> [@Polerius](#): > > The video above doesn’t strike me as of a person who is a nut or unstable or unreliable. He seems quite composed given the circumstances he is in. Having seen friends and family members with mental illness during acute phases, I can testify that they can easily appear quite composed. “A nut or unstable or unreliable” does not necessarily mean foaming at the mouth. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/167 "2022-01-08T18:14:01Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > {…} And (one of my favorite facts), he was so clumsy with a gun that he used his middle finger to pull the trigger. {…} Not necessarily clumsy, [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/FJN0_REGoL0/maxresdefault.jpg "Is Pulling the Trigger With Your Middle Finger More Accurate?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJN0_REGoL0) ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/168 "2022-01-08T21:45:27Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I find it equally an appeal to argument by incredulity to say that this incompetent pipsqueak just up and decided to kill JFK all on his own for reasons that we will never know The only way you could conclude that we’ll “never know” why Oswald shot Kennedy is to ignore Oswald’s entire life. He was a wannabe big shot, and an avowed Marxist. He was also a huge proponent of the Cuban revolution, which JFK was aggressively opposing. And, despite his lofty ideas, he was working a seasonal job at a warehouse, and couldn’t even afford to live with his wife and children, one of whom was only about a month old. > [@wolfpup](#): > > Jack Ruby then killed him also for reasons that we will never know Ruby was a big dumb goof. He was also a nosy gossip. You can see him in news reporting within the police station once Oswald was arrested, because he was the kind of guy who wanted to be a part of the action. I’m sure he heard lots of people talking about wanting to kill that loser who shot the President, so when he managed to wander into the location where Oswald was being moved, he shot him. It was completely impulsive, which was how Ruby was known to behave. > [@Polerius](#): > > The video above doesn’t strike me as of a person who is a nut or unstable or unreliable. He seems quite composed given the circumstances he is in. I’ll remind you that this is the same man who was court martialed twice while in the Marines (once for “accidentally” shooting himself, which was suspicious because he did it when he was going to be transferred away from a place he didn’t want to leave). And when his visa to Russia expired, and they told him he had to leave, he managed to stay by attempting suicide. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/169 "2022-01-08T22:19:14Z")
I feel the evidence that Oswald was the lone killer and not part of any conspiracy is overwhelming. If there is a conspiracy I feel there may have been a cover-up after the fact. Not of any government participation in the assassination but of a government failure to put together the clues before the assassination and realize Oswald was a suspicious character. Hoover was zealous in protecting the FBI’s image and wouldn’t have wanted people to see evidence that the FBI had screwed up. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/170 "2022-01-08T23:42:42Z")
> [@Polerius](#): > > The fact is that not everything aligns well in the official narrative. The last highly official investigation was by the United States House Select Committee on Assassinations. They concluded there was a conspiracy, including a shooter on the grassy knoll. I think that Jean Davidson, Gerald Posner, and Priscilla Johnson McMillan have a good idea of what happened and why. They have an anti-CT perspective. But it isn’t more official. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/171 "2022-01-09T00:03:08Z")
On the other hand, when he wanted to leave the Soviet Union, he didn’t have to threaten suicide to do so. They not only let him go, they allowed him to take not one, but two, Soviet citizens with him. I’ve always wondered about that, too. ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/172 "2022-01-09T00:14:25Z")
Well, they allowed him to take his wife and infant daughter with him. Did the Soviets really want a 20 year old unmarried woman and an infant left there when Oswald went back to America. It wasn’t as though he took two KGB agents back with him. No Offense **E-DUB** but you seem like several conspiracy theory friends of mine. You “wonder” about a lot of things, and when someone gives you an answer to that which you "wonder’ about, you ignore the answer and move onto another issue that you “wonder” about. You don’t seem to want to learn and reach a different conclusion. You just believe and no amount of information will change your mind. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/173 "2022-01-09T00:24:21Z")
Certainly glad you weren’t trying to offend. But as to the substance of what you said re: Marina and daughter. There was a case in the eighties where an American married a Russian woman and they had a devil of a time getting her out. (As it happened, I knew the guy.) I’m not a typical conspiracist (if that’s a word) but I’ve never bought the official line on the JFK assassination. The only other conspiracy theory that I bought into was that Gary Hart was set up, but that one proved to be more conspiracy and less theory. ---
**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/174 "2022-01-09T03:09:33Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > It’s been asked, and answered, in this thread: > > > [@Moriarty](#): > > > > This is the same reason that Oswald shooting Kennedy as he drove towards the depository isn’t sensible - Oswald would be shooting through the front window of the large limousine, whereas the shot he did take gave him an unobstructed view of the back of Kennedy’s head. I don’t believe the windshield is even close to being an issue 6 floors up. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/175 "2022-01-09T03:10:17Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > United States House Select Committee on Assassinations Them. Here’s the [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Select_Committee_on_Assassinations#General_conclusions) on their conclusions. On the Kennedy assassination, the HSCA concluded in its 1979 report that: 1. Lee Harvey Oswald fired three shots at Kennedy. The second and third shots Oswald fired struck the President. The third shot he fired killed the President. 2. Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that at least two gunmen fired at the President. Other scientific evidence does not preclude the possibility of two gunmen firing at the President. Scientific evidence negates some specific conspiracy allegations. 3. The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The committee was unable to identify the other gunmen or the extent of the conspiracy. 1 is obvious. 2 is blithering idiocy that no investigation ever since has verified. It it as certain as Oswald’s shooting Kennedy that no such audio evidence exists. 3 is entirely based on 2. Even so, the Committee ruled out the Soviet Government, the Cuban Government, anti-Castro Cuban groups, organized crime, and the Secret Service, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and Central Intelligence Agency. So who’s left? Aliens? ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/176 "2022-01-09T04:08:08Z")
> [@Polerius](#): > > There have been two assassinations of US presidents: Lincoln and JFK. Yet only the latter has endless conspiracy theories surrounding it. > > Is it because Lincoln’s killer was arrested and confessed while JFK’s killer was killed before trial while maintaining his innocence? > > Any other reasons for the difference in prevalence of conspiracy theories around the assassination of the two US presidents? It’s hard to engage with your question when you seem to have ignored two other US Presidents, both killed by lone nut jobs. I mean, just going off the probabilities, of the three successful POTUS assassinations apart from Kennedy, two were lone gunmen. The other _did_ involve a conspiracy, _and we know it because an investigation promptly uncovered evidence of the conspiracy_. Although now I wonder… were there conspiracy theories in the wake of Garfield and McKinley, who just refused to believe one lone gunman could take down a President? ETA: A quick review of the wiki suggests there was an initial sense that McKinley’s assassination was part of a wider conspiracy of anarchists, but it’s unclear if that remained a popular alternative theory for long after. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/177 "2022-01-09T04:19:05Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > 2 is blithering idiocy that no investigation ever since has verified. It it as certain as Oswald’s shooting Kennedy that no such audio evidence exists. Posner covered this issue. The audio recording of the unexplained gunshots were presented to the committee on the last day of the investigation. This prevented any in-depth checking of the recording. So they essentially took it as presented. The recording of the gunshot was from a police radio. It was later found that the radio that broadcast the sound of the gunshot was not present at Dealey Plaza; it was in another part of the city. So whatever that gunshot was, it had nothing to do with Kennedy’s assassination. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/178 "2022-01-09T05:21:36Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > So who’s left? Aliens? The RAND Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people, under the supervision of the reverse vampires. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/179 "2022-01-09T05:23:56Z")
I thought it was Cyberdyne Systems. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2022, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493/180 "2022-01-09T05:30:35Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > I’m not a typical conspiracist From what I’ve read over the years, making that claim almost certainly identifies you as the typical conspiracist. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-left-in-the-still-classified-jfk-assassination-files/953493.md?page=10)