# What is "Me & Julio" about? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 12, 2019, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-me-julio-about/840132 "2019-09-12T23:02:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-me-julio-about/840132/21 "2019-09-14T03:16:43Z")
Just because Simon is male, can we assume that “me” in the song is male? “House of the Rising Sun” and “Angel From Montgomery” have female narrators, but Eric Burdon and John Prine appear to be male. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-me-julio-about/840132/22 "2019-09-14T08:55:46Z")
If the singer is male is there a reason to NOT assume the song’s narrator is male? Sometimes it’s obvious from the lyrics, but most other times it’s really not, especially if you are open to the notion of relationships other than heterosexual. Likewise, if the singer is female. Even more fun if the singer’s gender is ambiguous. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-me-julio-about/840132/23 "2019-09-14T13:37:31Z")
> [@P-man](#): > > Just because Simon is male, can we assume that “me” in the song is male? “House of the Rising Sun” and “Angel From Montgomery” have female narrators, but Eric Burdon and John Prine appear to be male. _Well, mama looks down and she spits on the ground every time my name gets mentioned. And Papa said, “Oh, if I get that boy, I’m gonna stick him in the house of detention.”_ ---
**Author:** ![kirkrapine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@kirkrapine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kirkrapine)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-me-julio-about/840132/24 "2019-09-17T00:39:56Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I always thought “Me and Julio” would be a good title for a '70s ethnic sitcom, along with “Chinaman’s Chance.” Well, for the time period, it sounds no more offensive than “Chico and the Man.” ---
**Author:** ![kirkrapine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7ea924/32.png) [@kirkrapine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kirkrapine)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-me-julio-about/840132/25 "2019-09-17T00:41:51Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Have you got a cite for that? > I’d really like to know! No, it’s just something I heard once. [Wiki sez:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27re_So_Vain) > [@](#): > > The title subject’s identity has long been a matter of speculation, with Simon stating that the song refers to three men, only one of whom she has named publicly, actor Warren Beatty.[ ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-me-julio-about/840132/26 "2019-09-17T01:54:40Z")
> [@kirkrapine](#): > > No, it’s just something I heard once. [Wiki sez:](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27re_So_Vain) Ridiculous. Elton John was barely famous in 1971, when the song was written. It is amusing, though, to match up [this guy](http://performingsongwriter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/elton-john.jpg) with the the suave, ladies man in the lyrics. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-me-julio-about/840132/27 "2019-09-17T02:27:05Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > The homosexual thing makes more sense, but for me it was always about the narrator’s having sex with the mama and the papa’s underage daughter. Since according to [Paul Simon’s website](https://www.paulsimon.com/track/me-and-julio-down-by-the-schoolyard/) the lyrics are, “See you, me and Julio down by the school yard” I always assumed the three of them were getting it on, and at least one of them was over age. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-me-julio-about/840132/28 "2019-09-17T02:34:59Z")
> [@Rhiannon8404](#): > > Since according to [Paul Simon’s website](https://www.paulsimon.com/track/me-and-julio-down-by-the-schoolyard/) the lyrics are, “See you, me and Julio down by the school yard” I always assumed the three of them were getting it on, and at least one of them was over age. “You” could be Julio. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-me-julio-about/840132/29 "2019-09-17T02:41:38Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > “You” could be Julio. If it’s “you, me, and Julio”, then how can “you” be Julio? If it was “you and me, Julio”, then you’d have a point. But as it is, “you” and “Julio” are definitely two distinct people. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-me-julio-about/840132/30 "2019-09-18T08:57:05Z")
[quote=“jnglmassiv, post:20, topic:840132”] I hope everyone has seen this take. Paul Simon gets upstaged while singing Me & Julio on Sesame Street. [/QUOTE] What a bizarre fucking choice of songs for a children's TV program. I mean, I like Paul Simon a lot, love the song (and enjoyed this live version) but seems like a total WTF selection. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-me-julio-about/840132/31 "2019-09-18T15:23:38Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > What a bizarre fucking choice of songs for a children’s TV program. > > I mean, I like Paul Simon a lot, love the song (and enjoyed this live version) but seems like a total WTF selection. That’s what made “Sesame Street” great back in the day. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-me-julio-about/840132.md?page=1)