# What is meant when describing garb as "Plus fours"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 26, 2006, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-meant-when-describing-garb-as-plus-fours/366053 "2006-07-26T05:44:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2006, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-meant-when-describing-garb-as-plus-fours/366053/21 "2006-07-27T15:54:21Z")
I was beginning to think I was wooshed. Theodore Rooservelt jokes don’t work well when translated by my English brain. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-meant-when-describing-garb-as-plus-fours/366053/22 "2006-07-27T17:05:31Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] I thought Farina was supposed to be a guy. And it appears that [imdb agrees with me.](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0396012/) [/QUOTE] As do I. Hence my use of the pronoun “his.” ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2006, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-meant-when-describing-garb-as-plus-fours/366053/23 "2006-07-27T17:30:05Z")
[QUOTE=chaoticbear] These are definitely man-capris, not anything hip-hop related. They’re like pants, but not. [/QUOTE] [quote-AskNott] So, Big Boi isn’t copying Tintin, he’s got his own thang.But Andre 3000 does wear plus fours that are gathered in below the knee. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-meant-when-describing-garb-as-plus-fours/366053/24 "2006-07-27T18:19:43Z")
[QUOTE=pulykamell] I do believe that is a joke, sir. 🙂 [/QUOTE] Nope, "jokes’ are supposed to be “funny” and this is General Questions not MPSIMS. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2006, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-meant-when-describing-garb-as-plus-fours/366053/25 "2006-07-27T18:28:19Z")
[QUOTE=DrDeth] Nope, "jokes’ are supposed to be “funny” and this is General Questions not MPSIMS. [/QUOTE] I, for one, found it amusing, given all the popular etymologies (like “pumpernickel” meaning _pain for Nicole_, Napoleans horse, and BS like that) going around. And who says you can’t make jokes in GQ? …unless I’m the one being completely whooshed here. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2006, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-meant-when-describing-garb-as-plus-fours/366053/26 "2006-07-27T18:29:47Z")
That should have read _pain pour Nicole_ up there. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2006, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-meant-when-describing-garb-as-plus-fours/366053/27 "2006-07-27T18:34:17Z")
[QUOTE=pulykamell] I, for one, found it amusing, given all the popular etymologies (like “pumpernickel” meaning _pain for Nicole_, Napoleans horse, and BS like that) going around. And who says you can’t make jokes in GQ? …unless I’m the one being completely whooshed here. [/QUOTE] I think it is generally agreed that you can as long as the question has been well and truly answered. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2006, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-meant-when-describing-garb-as-plus-fours/366053/28 "2006-07-27T18:43:06Z")
[QUOTE=pulykamell] That should have read _pain pour Nicole_ up there. [/QUOTE] Still a myth, but I always heard it as _Bon pour Nicole_, i.e. it’s only good enough for my horse. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2006, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-meant-when-describing-garb-as-plus-fours/366053/29 "2006-07-27T19:15:00Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] Still a myth, but I always heard it as _Bon pour Nicole_, i.e. it’s only good enough for my horse. [/QUOTE] Actually, I apparently have one more typo: the standard version is _pain pour Nicol_ > **[What Does Pumpernickel Mean?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pumpernickel/)** > > Is pumpernickel bread so named because a Frenchman derisively declared it was 'pain pour Nicol'? Never heard the _bon pour Nicol_ version. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2006, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-meant-when-describing-garb-as-plus-fours/366053/30 "2006-07-27T19:16:07Z")
:smack: Snopes contains the _bon pour Nicol_ one as well. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2006, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-meant-when-describing-garb-as-plus-fours/366053/31 "2006-07-27T20:56:18Z")
[QUOTE=Bippy the Beardless] I was beginning to think I was wooshed. Theodore Rooservelt jokes don’t work well when translated by my English brain. [/QUOTE] My apologies; I didn’t mean for you to read the whole section, just look at the right-hand image on the first page. Yes, it was a whoosh: the question had been asked and answered, and I was taking the piss out of bogus eytomologies like “For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-meant-when-describing-garb-as-plus-fours/366053.md?page=1)