# What is "Positive Gun News"?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-positive-gun-news/839675>\
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**Created:** [September 4, 2019, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-positive-gun-news/839675 "2019-09-04T12:32:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-positive-gun-news/839675/221 "2019-09-27T19:19:59Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I don’t think this analogy fits. Again, take the thread called “Positive Abortion News of the Day” (which you already allude to.) Should we allow any and all news on abortion to be included in that thread, whether it’s a thread about someone’s positive experience with abortion, or an abortion gone disastrously wrong? To allow pro-lifers to jump in like that would make a mockery of the thread. It would no longer be “positive” abortion stories; it would be “omnibus abortion stories for everything.”

Would you consider “The stripper I accidently got pregnant decided to have an abortion, so yay! No child support for me” to be Positive Abortion News?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-positive-gun-news/839675/222 "2019-09-27T19:24:10Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Would you consider “The stripper I accidently got pregnant decided to have an abortion, so yay! No child support for me” to be Positive Abortion News?

I don’t see why not, you avoided what would likely be a significant and long-term financial burden.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-positive-gun-news/839675/223 "2019-09-27T19:25:53Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Would you consider “The stripper I accidently got pregnant decided to have an abortion, so yay! No child support for me” to be Positive Abortion News?

If it’s a Positive Abortion News thread, then yes, that would fit the parameters of the thread.  
For it to not qualify, it would have to be a story like, “My stripper girlfriend wanted to get an abortion, but the laws here in Mississippi prevented her from doing so, yay”

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-positive-gun-news/839675/224 "2019-09-27T19:31:07Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I don’t think this analogy fits. Again, take the thread called “Positive Abortion News of the Day” (which you already allude to.) Should we allow any and all news on abortion to be included in that thread, whether it’s a thread about someone’s positive experience with abortion, or an abortion gone disastrously wrong?

You do realize that k9bfriender said that he would have considered the PANotD thread to be trolling if it wasn’t created in the wake of vociferous moderator defense of the PGNotD thread.

Of course allowing anti-abortion arguments in the “positive” thread would make a mockery of the thread, the point is that the very concept of the thread is a problem.

It’s a deliberately constructed echo chamber for divisive political views. It’s a weird concept on a website dedicated to fighting ignorance, setting aside a place where alternate viewpoints are simply not allowed.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-positive-gun-news/839675/225 "2019-09-28T00:14:29Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> (…)  
> It’s a deliberately constructed echo chamber for divisive political views. It’s a weird concept on a website dedicated to fighting ignorance, setting aside a place where alternate viewpoints are simply not allowed.

The crux of the matter, well formulated.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-positive-gun-news/839675/226 "2019-09-28T05:04:41Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> …  
> It’s a deliberately constructed echo chamber for divisive political views. It’s a weird concept on a website dedicated to fighting ignorance, setting aside a place where alternate viewpoints are simply not allowed.

This is a common occurrence. In a thread eulogizing some celebrity, it is threadshitting to come in and call that person horrible names. “What’s your favorite Harry Potter Book” - and “I hate all of them, I never even bothered to read them, populist garbage” will get you a well deserved Warning for threadshitting. “Who is your favorite Raiders Player?” and “Those asshole traitors, I spit on their shadow”- will also get you dinged.

This has been explained to you guys over and over and over. There are no special rules for that thread. It just has “No threadshitting” just like every other thread does.

Apparently, you want, _desperately_ to be able to threadshit in this odd thread. Why?

There’s arent lots of other gun related threads? There isnt one devoted to stupid gun news?

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-positive-gun-news/839675/227 "2019-09-28T08:58:11Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> This is a common occurrence. In a thread eulogizing some celebrity, it is threadshitting to come in and call that person horrible names. “What’s your favorite Harry Potter Book” - and “I hate all of them, I never even bothered to read them, populist garbage” will get you a well deserved Warning for threadshitting. “Who is your favorite Raiders Player?” and “Those asshole traitors, I spit on their shadow”- will also get you dinged.
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> This has been explained to you guys over and over and over. There are no special rules for that thread. It just has “No threadshitting” just like every other thread does.
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> Apparently, you want, _desperately_ to be able to threadshit in this odd thread. Why?
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> There’s arent lots of other gun related threads? There isnt one devoted to stupid gun news?

You are conflating a thread about the latest Harry Potter with a long running thread about one of the most divisive subjects in American politics. And you are calling others desparate?

Really?

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-positive-gun-news/839675/228 "2019-09-28T09:04:09Z")

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And you (and others here) keep trying to appropriatie the term “Threadshitting” to suit your needs.

In the context of the SDMB this:

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> Threadshitting is belittling the topic or the people discussing it. It typically takes the form of a dismissive comment, like “Who cares?” or “This is stupid!” or similar. The implication of the threadshitter is that discussion of such a topic is beneath them, and should be beneath everybody else. If you really do think that a discussion is inane or pointless, the appropriate thing to do is to not participate in it. And, of course, if you see someone threadshitting, please do not respond with personal insults or accusations: instead, REPORT the post to a Moderator.

is threadshitting, passionately arguing that someone is wrong is not threadshitting.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-positive-gun-news/839675/229 "2019-09-28T11:22:43Z")

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**Moderator Action**

Those who are opposed to the Positive Gun News thread are clearly not going to be happy until we allow them to trash that thread, and since that’s not going to happen, the endless discussion here is getting rather pointless.

So, that’s enough. If you still feel that you must vent, you know where the Pit is. This is closed.

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