# What is soooo evil about being a liberal? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 11, 2003, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304 "2003-02-11T05:58:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Themis00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/13edae/32.png) [@Themis00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Themis00)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/1 "2003-02-11T05:58:11Z")
_Disclaimer_ I don’t really consider myself as liberal, but more centrist, so don’t flame me. 😃 I hear people use the word “liberal” as if it is the worst on thing on earth. Why? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/2 "2003-02-11T06:00:02Z")
I think it’s the Satan worship. Either that, or the cannabalism. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/3 "2003-02-11T06:01:42Z")
Hey, if you think it’s bad now, take a look at the Eighties. I’ll never forget the Bloom County storyline in which Opus goes before a Congressional committee to answer charges that he is a liberal, and comes home with the “liberal” label (with related phrases such as “loony left”) literally slapped all over him. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/4 "2003-02-11T06:03:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Themis00 \* > **_Disclaimer_ I don’t really consider myself as liberal, but more centrist, so don’t flame me. 😃** You think that’s gonna protect you? As if. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/5 "2003-02-11T06:07:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Themis00 \* > \*\*…I hear people use the word “liberal” as if it is the worst on thing on earth. Why? \*\* Modern liberals are not ‘evil’ per se; Just stupid and naive. ---
**Author:** ![Themis00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/13edae/32.png) [@Themis00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Themis00)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/6 "2003-02-11T06:09:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Brutus \* > \*\*Modern liberals are not ‘evil’ per se; Just stupid and naive. \*\* Ok, then why are they stupid and naive? ---
**Author:** ![I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_can_t_believe_that_s_butter)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/7 "2003-02-11T06:11:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Modern liberals are not ‘evil’ per se; Just stupid and naive. Depends on the person, I’d say. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/8 "2003-02-11T06:15:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Brutus \* > \*\*Modern liberals are not ‘evil’ per se; Just stupid and naive. \*\* Geez, this sounds like a class slur to me. All liberals? ---
**Author:** ![I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_can_t_believe_that_s_butter)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/9 "2003-02-11T06:17:29Z")
> [@](#): > > Ok, then why are they stupid and naive? Wouldn’t this be a personal opinion, **Themis00**? I’m guessing that, unless you want as many answers as there are posts, that you would get as much from asking such a broad question. The same would occur if, perhaps, I asked, “What’s the big deal with, uh, all those Republicans, who dig Bush among other things?”. ---
**Author:** ![Fang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/96bed5/32.png) [@Fang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fang)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/10 "2003-02-11T06:19:50Z")
I suppose it depends on who you’re listening to. At many colleges, the word “conservative” is considered slightly worse than “axe murderer”. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/11 "2003-02-11T06:23:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Ace of Swords \* > \*\*Geez, this sounds like a class slur to me. All liberals? \*\* A ‘class slur’? :rolleyes: I reiterate: Modern liberals are stupid and naive. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/12 "2003-02-11T06:25:25Z")
I guess that’d make you a bigot, then. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/13 "2003-02-11T06:27:54Z")
Well, you know how it is, **Brutus**. It’s all us liberals down here in the trenches with the common, working man while you conservatives sit up on the hill looking all hoity-toity and sipping iced tea. Please, **Ace** , don’t try to help. ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/14 "2003-02-11T06:28:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Ace of Swords \* > \*\*I guess that’d make you a bigot, then. \*\* You are doing an incredible job at demonstrating my point. ---
**Author:** ![I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_can_t_believe_that_s_butter)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/15 "2003-02-11T06:31:28Z")
> [@](#): > > I reiterate: Modern liberals are stupid and naive. As opposed to, say, a classical liberal or some such? Define “Modern liberal”, if you wouldn’t mind. And, just how are “Modern liberals” stupid and/or naive? ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/16 "2003-02-11T06:35:11Z")
you got some evidence for the stupid and naive comment, or are you just insulting to compensate for low self esteem. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/17 "2003-02-11T06:38:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Brutus \* > \*\*You are doing an incredible job at demonstrating my point. \*\* By which you must mean that the slur of “stupid and naive” which you apple to all modern liberals applies to me. Just what makes one a “modern liberal”? Is Ghandi a "modern liberal? Do you really consider Ghandi to be stupid and naive? ---
**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/18 "2003-02-11T06:43:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*you got some evidence for the stupid and naive comment, or are you just insulting to compensate for low self esteem. \*\* **Tars** , you know what they say, _Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to stupidity_. **Ace**. Arrgghhh.Look [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=159869&highlight=gandhi). ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/19 "2003-02-11T06:50:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*you got some evidence for the stupid and naive comment, or are you just insulting to compensate for low self esteem. \*\* Plenty, but wouldn’t it just be easier to grab a copy of the NYT? Fine…Here are some of the reasons that I find modern liberals to be stupid and naive: 1. They cry about the (false) lack of international support for invading Iraq. We don’t need, can’t really use it, can’t get it even if offered, and already have what little is actually of use to us (in terms of bases in the region.) 2. They support gun control. 3. They want stupid and ineffective social programs. 4. They want to raise my taxes to pay for their stupid and ineffective social programs. 5. They buy into psuedo-science regarding the environment, and get their panties in a bunch when the rest of don’t do the same. 6. ‘Roll over and die’ is their MO when it comes to dealing with international crisis. 7. They support infanticide. 8. They, knowingly or not, are supporting a fabianesque creep towards socialism. 9. When in doubt, they cry ‘Racism!’ first, and ask questions later, if at all. 10. Bill Clinton is their hero. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304/20 "2003-02-11T07:01:49Z")
I’m begining to suspect that Brutus is stupid and naive. Either that or his wife left him for a liberal. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-soooo-evil-about-being-a-liberal/154304.md?page=2)