# What is the appeal of artificial fish/duck lips? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 21, 2015, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468 "2015-01-21T10:48:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/1 "2015-01-21T10:48:09Z")
It seems that some middle aged women are having collagen injections in their lips to the point they look like a Star Trek alien of the week, not even human. It looks gross and grotesque, not attractive at all. See an example from a reality show below: [http://cdn04.cdn.crunktastical.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/146533271-angela-big-ang-raiola-from-mobwives-attends-wireimage.jpg](http://cdn04.cdn.crunktastical.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/146533271-angela-big-ang-raiola-from-mobwives-attends-wireimage.jpg) Why would anyone do this to their face? Does anyone actually like this look? ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/2 "2015-01-21T11:02:53Z")
This is a before and after picture of the same woman: > **[Angela Raiola | Angela Raiola Picture #26957294 - 454 x 263 - FanPix.Net](https://fanpix.famousfix.com/gallery/angela-raiola/p26957294)** > > 24 May 2023... Angela Raiola | Angela Raiola Photo ID: 26957294. Picture of Angela Raiola - - Latest Angela Raiola image. So she basically paid money to turn herself from normal looking into a freak. I’ve seen this collagen fish lips look on many more women on TV, I just can’t see the appeal. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/3 "2015-01-21T11:20:42Z")
Yeah, this seems to be a thing for reality TV “stars”, not regular everyday women. I don’t get the appeal, either. They look awful, especially when caked with lipstick/gloss. Ew. ---
**Author:** ![scareyfaerie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scareyfaerie/32/3135_2.png) [@scareyfaerie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scareyfaerie)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/4 "2015-01-21T12:52:57Z")
The appeal? There isn’t one as far as I can see. Apart from vanity and the possession of more money than sense. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/5 "2015-01-21T13:37:03Z")
It makes it easier to catch and ingest small fish. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/6 "2015-01-21T13:44:01Z")
She looks like Janice, from the Electric Mayhem. That’s taking Muppet Show cosplay a little far, I think… ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/7 "2015-01-21T14:17:43Z")
Two WAGs: One is simply that these women aren’t so clear on what men find attractive and just figure the bigger the better (and of course you do not notice those women out there who choose to only have a modest volume added…perhaps this latter group massively outnumbers the former?) The other is that it’s a form of mental illness, similar to anorexia, or those bodybuilders who think they look skinny no matter how big they get. Maybe these women are _still_ looking in the mirror thinking “jeez, look at those thin, shrivelled lips…” ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/8 "2015-01-21T14:24:39Z")
…oh and obviously other possibilities, such as a surgery gone wrong, or the surgeon being the one with the unusual sense of what is aesthetically pleasing. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/9 "2015-01-21T14:54:29Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > Yeah, this seems to be a thing for reality TV “stars”, not regular everyday women. The common factor here is a desire for attention, even if it’s the kind of attention that “normal” people wouldn’t want. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/10 "2015-01-21T15:23:41Z")
Could be a surgical mistake / failure. I remember reading about a guy who went in for LASIK and ended up with some permanent Hellish disorder called “Sands of the Sahara”. Bad things happen to good people too. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/11 "2015-01-21T16:58:49Z")
IMHO they go to see a cosmetic surgeon and the first thing that’s recommended is botox because it’s easy and cheap, and gets them in the door. And it develops a relationship with the patient, so the doctor can keep suggesting more procedures. And more botox, of course - the result is a bit of an “emperor’s new clothes” situation. I’m guessing there are a lot more people with good-looking botox results and people like Big Ang (in the OP) are outliers. You just don’t notice good botox jobs because they don’t look insane. ---
**Author:** ![Knucklefunger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Knucklefunger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knucklefunger)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/12 "2015-01-21T17:07:39Z")
Jubuz I’m new to this phenomena. That lip thing is about as appealing as the gal with the 3rd breast. Cantina scene worthy. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Boods](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Ms\_Boods](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms_Boods)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/13 "2015-01-21T17:35:15Z")
It’s not just reality ‘stars’: behold Leslie Ash [http://www.nerdygaga.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/lesley\_ash.jpg](http://www.nerdygaga.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/lesley_ash.jpg) This was an enhancement gone wrong, as the quack she went to injected her with household-grade silicon if I remember correctly. No way to remove it (and she’s ended up with additional health problems consequently) ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/14 "2015-01-21T17:42:50Z")
Women who have them naturally tend to be judged as very beautiful or sexy. This is true of a lot of features - in a natural setting they are one thing. Glued onto someone who doesn’t have the height, body shape, face shape, musculature, skin tone or skin shade to give them context, they look like bad Halloween costumes. But ByGod if Angelina has fat pouty lips that make men swoon, a skinny Hispanic girl with a square face and wide jaw will look just as good with a tube of collagen injected into hers. Ditto for boobs, cheek work, butt implants (which always makes me think ‘turd,’ sorry) etc. If ya ain’t got it… you probably shouldn’t have it. The choice needs to be put in the hands of a good physical esthetician, which some plastic surgeons are. (I had several connections to a very, very good one who turned away 3 in 5 clients, and had ample opportunity to see his work. All board-certified PSs should be half that good, mainly in judgment.) Which won’t stop deluded women, even those with successful celebrity careers, from going down the chain until they get to the PS equivalent of a kitchen-table abortionist. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/15 "2015-01-21T20:16:45Z")
> [@grude](#): > > This is a before and after picture of the same woman: > > [Angela Raiola | Angela Raiola Picture #26957294 - 454 x 263 - FanPix.Net](http://fanpix.famousfix.com/picture-gallery/angela-raiola-picture-26957294.htm) Who the hell is that ugly guy in the after photo? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/16 "2015-01-21T20:25:48Z")
Reminds me of unnaturally large breast implants - too much of a good thing, and rather incongruous on an older woman. Then again, I am not much of a fan of implants or lip collagen even when it is not overdone. There’s no accounting for taste. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/17 "2015-01-21T20:33:50Z")
These lips might create a severe suction effect. Perhaps if she attached herself to the side of an aquarium, she might attract a fish . . . or scare it into going belly-up. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/18 "2015-01-21T23:31:44Z")
Remember that you are only noticing the ones that go wrong or are excessive. It’s like facelifts. You only notice the bad ones. As much as I hate overdone lips, it can be argued that fuller lips are attractive. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/19 "2015-01-22T02:14:38Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Reminds me of unnaturally large breast implants - too much of a good thing, and rather incongruous on an older woman. … I’ve always wondered what will happen when all those breast implants get to the nursing home and most of the women are walking around wearing size 38 extra long. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468/20 "2015-01-22T02:16:26Z")
Implants don’t sag. They will still be perky in the NH. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-artificial-fish-duck-lips/710468.md?page=2)