# What is the appeal of "chicks with dicks"? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 30, 2007, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155 "2007-03-30T20:40:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/1 "2007-03-30T20:40:18Z")
If you’re a gay man, you want a man. If you’re a straight man, you want a woman (though a post-op male-to-female transsexual might be woman enough for you). What kind of guy is attracted to **pre** -op male-to-female transsexuals, and why? Apparently some are – “chicks with dicks” is a distinct porn subgenre. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/2 "2007-03-30T20:41:52Z")
You know? I’ve wondered this myself. Who reads those ads or watches those videos? Who is attracted to them? Now I know that if you can think of it someone gets off to it…but the preponderance of this particular genre always gets me to…well…pondering. Add me to the confused ones. ---
**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/3 "2007-03-30T20:43:19Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] If you’re a gay man, you want a man. If you’re a straight man, you want a woman (though a post-op male-to-female transsexual might be woman enough for you). What kind of guy is attracted to **pre** -op male-to-female transsexuals, and why? Apparently some are – “chicks with dicks” is a distinct porn subgenre. [/QUOTE] Not everyone is either 100% gay or 100% straight. And you’ve heard of fetishes, right? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/4 "2007-03-30T20:49:06Z")
[QUOTE=Scarlett67] Not everyone is either 100% gay or 100% straight. And you’ve heard of fetishes, right? [/QUOTE] True, now where can I find some conjoined twin porn? 😉 :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/5 "2007-03-30T20:54:50Z")
Diferent strokes for different folks and all, but the seeming popularity of it is kind of curious. Same with all the anal stuff; not that people are into it so much as the overwhelming preponderance of it in porn. Of course, porn is where many folks indulge in fantasies they might not actually practice in real life, so there you go. It makes me feel pretty vanilla; I really just enjoy the straight heave ho, myself…no dicks, no butts, no S&M, furries, balloons or Star Trek characters (except 7 of 9, of course). God, I’m boring! ---
**Author:** ![sockswsandals](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@sockswsandals](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sockswsandals)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/6 "2007-03-30T21:06:35Z")
Not even [T’Pol](http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0244365/Ss/0244365/811.JPG.html?path=pgallery&path_key=Blalock,%20Jolene)? Edit: Just so I’m on topic here, I would venture to guess it has to do something with female domination. It involves the phallus, but includes the female form which is overall what the subject finds most appealing. Not an authority here, just what I think. ---
**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/7 "2007-03-30T21:10:47Z")
A Google search for “gynandromorphophilia” may be of interest to those who want to know more about this phenomenon. ---
**Author:** ![Kevbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Kevbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kevbo)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/8 "2007-03-30T21:16:42Z")
Perhaps most of the appeal is not erotic in nature. Think “freak show”. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/9 "2007-03-30T21:30:12Z")
[QUOTE=Kevbo] Perhaps most of the appeal is not erotic in nature. Think “freak show”. [/QUOTE] But nobody masturbates to a freak show. (Well, I could be wrong . . .) ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/10 "2007-03-30T21:32:03Z")
[QUOTE=Kevbo] Perhaps most of the appeal is not erotic in nature. Think “freak show”. [/QUOTE] I think there might be some middle ground between erotic/fetish and freak show. Could be that the simple novelty of it is of interest in an obliquely sexual way. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/11 "2007-03-30T21:32:52Z")
[QUOTE=Scarlett67] Not everyone is either 100% gay or 100% straight. [/QUOTE] True . . . but I have a hard time comprehending the appeal of CWD even to anything-that-moves bisexuals. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/12 "2007-03-30T21:33:14Z")
[QUOTE=alphaboi867] True, now where can I find some conjoined twin porn? 😉 :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] I saw an update on the girls that share a body with two heads. They are teenagers and not unnatractive. It started me thinking about what happens when they start to date: “Shirley, can I borrow the vagina tonight”? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/13 "2007-03-30T21:41:21Z")
But I think the OP is starting from the wrong premise. That gay men and straight women want butch men, and straight men and gay women want femme women. But that turns out not to be the case. Plenty of gay men are attracted to femme gay men, and plenty of lesbians are attracted to butch lesbians. And while it might (or might only seem to) be a bit more rare for straight men to be attracted to butch women or straight women to be attracted to femme men, it happens. Androgeny CAN be celebrated as something attractive, see early 80s pop stars. And really, some fetishes aren’t really about anything. What exactly is up with rubber fetishes, or foot fetishes, or amputee fetishes? God only knows. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/14 "2007-03-30T22:21:06Z")
[QUOTE=DanBlather] I saw an update on the girls that share a body with two heads. They are teenagers and not unnatractive. It started me thinking about what happens when they start to date: “Shirley, can I borrow the vagina tonight”? [/QUOTE] They’ll manage. The original Siamese twins, [Chang and Eng Bunker,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_and_Eng_Bunker) both were husbands and fathers. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/15 "2007-03-30T22:21:25Z")
I think it’s totally hot. I’m bi myself, and it’s like getting the best of both worlds. The smooth, feminine nature of a woman (and boobies!) plus a nice hard cock. What’s not to love? I tend to prefer women over men, but that only makes shemales (or pre-op TS, whatever you want to call them) more attractive to me, because I see them as really _mostly_ female. They just have the instrument which I sometimes like to play with as well. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/16 "2007-03-30T22:22:13Z")
I think there are a fair number of men out there who are thoroughly heterosexual but who still find penises sexually intriguing. I recall reading years ago of a heterosexual porn producer (John Stagliano, IIRC) who became infected with AIDS. He said he wasn’t interested in men but he was interested in dicks, and so he paid a transexual to do him in the butt during a trip to Rio or somewhere and he contracted AIDS as a result. I also seem to remember reading a comment by a poster around here sometime in the last year or so to the effect that even though he was heterosexual he nevertheless thought dicks looked “pretty tasty.” (I guess it’s a sign of my desensitization that I was more surprised that he’d admit it than I was by his thinking it. 😃 ) So in other words, I’ve come to feel that there is a fair number of men out there who find the idea of oral/anal activity involving a penis to be sexually compelling, but who would nevertheless be repulsed by the idea of kissing or snuggling with the man that it belonged to. So, if the penis happened to be attached to what is otherwise a very attractive female, the compulsion for penile sex could be satisfied while still sharing the rest of the experience with a desirable woman, which is where the overriding interest really lies. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/17 "2007-03-30T22:23:56Z")
^ Yeah, what he (or she?) said. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/18 "2007-03-30T22:24:37Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] They’ll manage. The original Siamese twins, [Chang and Eng Bunker,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_and_Eng_Bunker) both were husbands and fathers. [/QUOTE] But Chang and Eng each had their own penis. ---
**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/19 "2007-03-30T22:31:11Z")
**Rigmorale** and **Starving Artist** pretty much hit the nail on the head. From what I’ve been told by MtF friends who’ve had experiences with “chasers” (men who are specifically attracted to “chicks with dicks”), it’s a fetishization of the penis. It’s not a gay attraction at all. They want someone who is feminine and looks very girlish, but who also has a penis. They generally want to be penetrated by the MtF woman, as well, but not always. Most heterosexual MtF transwomen aren’t particularly interested because there is such a focus on the body part they hate and an interest in sexual acts that are _not_ particularly feminine. But, there are some who will go in for that, usually for money/love rather than desire, though I’m sure somewhere out there is a whole group of MtF transwomen who find it terribly titillating. ---
**Author:** ![NJ\_Kef\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b487fb/32.png) [@NJ\_Kef\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NJ_Kef_1)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2007, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155/20 "2007-03-30T22:41:30Z")
[QUOTE=Starving Artist] I think there are a fair number of men out there who are thoroughly heterosexual but who still find penises sexually intriguing. [/QUOTE] I think so, too. [Men look at crotches.](http://www.ojr.org/ojr/stories/070312ruel/) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-appeal-of-chicks-with-dicks/398155.md?page=2)