# What is the best dedicated forum for discussion of "Apollo moon landing hoax"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [January 26, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279 "2016-01-26T17:57:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/41 "2016-01-27T21:32:54Z")
Like I said, I’m just asking questions. Like how a “government” satellite takes “pictures” that supposedly shows the Apollo landing sites but when I point my telescope at the Moon I can’t see them. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/42 "2016-01-27T22:27:46Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Like I said, I’m just asking questions. > > Like how a “government” satellite takes “pictures” that supposedly shows the Apollo landing sites but when I point my telescope at the Moon I can’t see them. Get your own satellite! ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/43 "2016-01-28T02:23:25Z")
Just asking questions here. THEY claim there were astronauts in the module because they tracked the radio “broadcasts”. However it would be easy to send the broadcast from Earth using a high gain antenna that no one could track (the radio waves are pointed away from Earth) to have Apollo rebroadcast them towards the Earth. NASA has never proven they _didn’t_ do that. ---
**Author:** ![Anarcho\_Liberalist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Anarcho\_Liberalist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anarcho_Liberalist)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/44 "2016-01-28T10:21:38Z")
I can’t believe this thread is now actually moving toward a discussion on whether the Apollo landings were or could have been a hoax :eek: > [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Just asking questions here. > THEY claim there were astronauts in the module because they tracked the radio “broadcasts”. However it would be easy to send the broadcast from Earth using a high gain antenna that no one could track (the radio waves are pointed away from Earth) to have Apollo rebroadcast them towards the Earth. NASA has never proven they _didn’t_ do that. I seriously hope that you are just pulling our legs here Cad … in your post you use two of the most used conspiracy theorist tactics: ‘just asking questions’ and ‘they never proved that my theory is not true’ ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/45 "2016-01-28T10:40:38Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Just asking questions here. > THEY claim there were astronauts in the module because they tracked the radio “broadcasts”. However it would be easy to send the broadcast from Earth using a high gain antenna that no one could track (the radio waves are pointed away from Earth) to have Apollo rebroadcast them towards the Earth. NASA has never proven they _didn’t_ do that. Yes they have, by having astronauts take photos and film of each other, both in cislunar space and on the moon, with the Earth visible in shot showing weather patterns that can be matched to the date and time in question. Which would be utterly impossible to fake “on the fly”. But I am going off topic… ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/46 "2016-01-28T12:30:46Z")
> [@Colophon](#): > > Yes they have, by having astronauts take photos and film of each other, both in cislunar space and on the moon, with the Earth visible in shot showing weather patterns that can be matched to the date and time in question. Which would be utterly impossible to fake “on the fly”. > > But I am going off topic… You’re trusting 40+ year old weather reports? Do you know how trivial it would be to make those old records match their photos? ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/47 "2016-01-28T13:07:21Z")
[quote=“Horatius, post:35, topic:744279”] In a lot of cases, I suspect that’s literally true. I’ve lost count of the number of examples of some idiot noticing something for the first time, despite that “something” being exceedingly common, and then going off the deep end about how “They are hiding something!” or “Why wasn’t I told about this?” or “Why is this everywhere all of a sudden?” or other such similar nonsense. For instance: [/QUOTE] I had no idea the government supplied our oxygen. Ignorance fought! ---
**Author:** ![Francis\_Vaughan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/francis_vaughan/32/3093_2.png) [@Francis\_Vaughan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francis_Vaughan)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/48 "2016-01-28T13:32:56Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > I mean isn’t interesting that the original tapes were erased “accidentally”? Hey, I’m just asking questions. As above. No. Given it is only the Apollo 11 video for which the backup tapes were lost, you have to explain why the other 5 landings - which do have surviving video - are not important. It is a great shame that the backup tapes were lost, as we can’t get the best quality video of what was one of history’s great moments. We are left with recordings of the live to air stream that people actually watched as the moonwalk happened. But we do have lots of video of significantly superior quality of the other missions. “Just asking questions” seems to have become something of a mneme around the world that does not usually means what it says. The wholesale destruction and reuse of data and video tape during the 60’s has lost us a huge amount of valuable material. People had simply not developed any sense that what they had was intrinsically of historical value. (After all, it was “like only a few years ago - that isn’t history.”) ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/49 "2016-01-28T13:58:54Z")
> [@Colophon](#): > > I have become mildly obsessed with the chemtrail crowd of late. It’s a truly fascinating delusion, and it seems to be growing fast. We all know that burning jet fuel can’t melt steel beams. But at what temperature does the hideous chemical contrail mixture hidden aboard every plane burn at? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/50 "2016-01-28T15:20:55Z")
Look at the calendar. Thirty years ago _today._ Nice round number. Invite all your friends, family, and particularly the children to stand around. Imagine your father, say, or yourself, if it helps, holding your hand in a candle flame. Or just go ahead and do it. Now hold your breath. Don’t move. Look at the calendar. You’ll have to wait another year for the round number, but flip back 49 years ago _today_. This can be more of a private affair, and so assume it’s your father again. Now he too is holding his hand in the flame. He doesn’t move. In practice SD is partly for fighting ignorance and by declaration explicitly so. And CT people, are by definition ignorant. So yes, they, like all God’s creatures, are worth a conversation by people with different types of “open minds.” As priests, police, judges, and psychiatrists also do regularly, and, although not bound as a profession, most SD posters do also from time to time. But at some point the “open mind” investigating of a Holocaust denial, 9/11, down to contrails (not someone doing a meta-level sociological or psychological investigation)–even of, say, investigating by deduction in spite of any other cause a technical matter (steel construction, oven operating limits)–as opposed to up-front accusations of "because they [hate us/would lie about this because of their very nature)–all have at their root a moral equivocation which, at some point, leads us to declare: a CT adherent, claiming an “open mind” or not, is morally baseless, as repulsive as any supporter of murder and torture. Evil, in short. So today, especially, in my opinion, is a day to consider outright contempt, nothing more or nor less, for such debased individuals. Ignorance is the least of their sins. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/51 "2016-01-28T15:26:22Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Contrails (or vapor trails) have been around for a long time. There are plenty of photos & films. Explanations [here](http://contrailscience.com/contrail-confusion-is-nothing-new/)–along with some nutcase “comments.” > > Looking up occasionally to see how clouds (water vapor!) behave can also be fruitful. But some people never look up. Well, isn’t the thing with these chemtrail nutters that they DO recognize the existence of contrails, but claim that chemtrails are different? Not that I pay attention much to these folks, but I never got the sense that they’ve never seen contrails before–they’re just claiming some of those contrails are not vapor trails but rather chemical trails. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/52 "2016-01-28T16:30:40Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Well, isn’t the thing with these chemtrail nutters that they DO recognize the existence of contrails, but claim that chemtrails are different? Not that I pay attention much to these folks, but I never got the sense that they’ve never seen contrails before–they’re just claiming some of those contrails are not vapor trails but rather chemical trails. I’m sure we’re all willing to stipulate that CTers are a big ol’ can of mixed nuts, and their nuttery varies immensely from nut to nut. If I were a more evil person, and also more clever, I’d think the funnest thing in the world would be trolling CTer fora and provoking flamewars among the various factional brands of nuttery. And it would be so easy, too. They come pre-loaded with ignorance-fueled outrage. Just turn 'em on each other. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/53 "2016-01-28T17:27:52Z")
Just claim that conspiracy theorists are conspiring with one another (it at least SOME are) to advance false conspiracies over “real” ones and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/54 "2016-01-28T17:59:08Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Well, isn’t the thing with these chemtrail nutters that they DO recognize the existence of contrails, but claim that chemtrails are different? Not that I pay attention much to these folks, but I never got the sense that they’ve never seen contrails before–they’re just claiming some of those contrails are not vapor trails but rather chemical trails. A common meme among chemtrail believers is that modern jet engines cannot create contrails. (Actually, modern engines, being more efficient, are _more_ likely to create contrails…) [Read it and weep](http://globalskywatch.com/chemtrails/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6859&an=317#.VqpXqfmLRaQ). ---
**Author:** ![Anarcho\_Liberalist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Anarcho\_Liberalist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anarcho_Liberalist)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/55 "2016-01-28T18:01:43Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Just claim that conspiracy theorists are conspiring with one another (it at least SOME are) to advance false conspiracies over “real” ones and see what happens. Stuff like that apparently happens without our intervention: CT-ers claiming they were led to believe the moon landings were hoaxed (or whatever theory) to keep them from finding out an even bigger secret. As you know, CIA and other super secret government agencies shit their pants because of the CT-ers… ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/56 "2016-01-28T18:05:27Z")
> [@Anarcho\_Liberalist](#): > > Stuff like that apparently happens without our intervention: CT-ers claiming they were led to believe the moon landings were hoaxed (or whatever theory) to keep them from finding out an even bigger secret. As you know, CIA and other super secret government agencies shit their pants because of the CT-ers… Secrets within secrets, man, wheels within wheels. It’s secret wheeled turtles all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/57 "2016-01-28T18:42:57Z")
> [@Francis\_Vaughan](#): > > As above. No. Given it is only the Apollo 11 video for which the backup tapes were lost, you have to explain why the other 5 landings - which do have surviving video - are not important. Seeing how only Apollo 11 had to meet Kennedy’s “deadline” of making it to the Moon before the end of the decade, is it mere coincidence that “those” tapes are lost and the ones they had more time to create before the “launch” were better quality? Especially how THEY could have fixed the problems that came up filming the first “landing”? And then NASA “finds” the footage for the Apollo 18 mission but yet the “public” never sees it until certain truth-seekers make it available. Just asking questions here. ---
**Author:** ![Doughbag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Doughbag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doughbag)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/58 "2016-01-28T19:03:24Z")
You can visit the [Moon Faker](http://www.moonfaker.com/home.html) website from Jarrah White - The Soldier for the TRUTH!!! It’s always worth a chuckle with his [YouTube Channel](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkATHUUod4hjv4v-A48mTCw) … Flat Earth anyone!!! You can get all the [TRUTH](http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/) about those lies there! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/59 "2016-01-28T19:47:04Z")
> [@Colophon](#): > > A common meme among chemtrail believers is that modern jet engines cannot create contrails. (Actually, modern engines, being more efficient, are _more_ likely to create contrails…) > > [Read it and weep](http://globalskywatch.com/chemtrails/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6859&an=317#.VqpXqfmLRaQ). Oh, good god. I only spent about three minutes there, but… Good god. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279/60 "2016-01-28T19:55:05Z")
> [@Leo\_Bloom](#): > > Look at the calendar. Thirty years ago _today._ Nice round number. Invite all your friends, family, and particularly the children to stand around. Imagine your father, say, or yourself, if it helps, holding your hand in a candle flame. Or just go ahead and do it. Now hold your breath. Don’t move. > > Look at the calendar. You’ll have to wait another year for the round number, but flip back 49 years ago _today_. This can be more of a private affair, and so assume it’s your father again. Now he too is holding his hand in the flame. He doesn’t move. 😕 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-dedicated-forum-for-discussion-of-apollo-moon-landing-hoax/744279.md?page=4)