What is the best defense of the apartheid-like system Israel enforces in occupied/settled/disputed territories?

[orcenio]

@Wesley_Clark

What is your solution to the issue? Gaza needs to be governed by a government that makes sure international aid goes to the people and is not diverted, and that is disarmed so it can’t declare war on Israel. how do you propose that be accomplished?

I’m not certain you remember it, but I already put my thoughts, both, of your blanket rejection of Palestinian earnest desire for freedom from Israeli violence and control, and of the ultimate end goal of any solution to Palestinian political existence.

@orcenio

What do you believe should happen to Gazans? If you think they are a genocidal, illogically hateful, irredeemably warring people… so what is the logical game plan?

I’m quite curious. If you have such an opinion, what could you possibly say is the resolution? For me, there is no solution unless Palestinians have 1) a vote/representation in Israel, or 2) a state of their own to vote in. That’s it. Anything else is oppression and war.

However, here I have someone who thinks that Gazans are almost irredeemable monsters. What could you think is the endgame? A forever occupation under Israel? No endgame at all? Just keep it going. Don’t think further then that.

One more quote to outline what I think of when I see engagement with political extremism (which I define as turning towards violence, myself)

@orcenio

Its clear why Gazans are so extreme in their politics. They suffer in extreme circumstances. Look at the West Bank, they suffer less so they have the freedom to not be as extreme. Look at Israel, Both the Arabs there are NO WAY NEAR as extreme, and the Jewish population isn’t as extreme too.

Its so clear to me that people’s freedom from extremity in politics are limited by their circumstances. Thus this is why it is important not to put people into extreme situations. Blindingly clear.