# What is the Best Rap Song and Group(even though I don't like rap) **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 9, 2000, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-rap-song-and-group-even-though-i-dont-like-rap/40480 "2000-11-09T17:14:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Nacho4Sara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Nacho4Sara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nacho4Sara)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2000, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-rap-song-and-group-even-though-i-dont-like-rap/40480/41 "2000-11-12T03:41:21Z")
I’m gonna show my age here, but I’m just throwing out some of my favorite songs: “Tricky,” Run DMC “Everything is Everything,” Lauryn Hill “Final Hour,” Lauryn Hill (“We’re about to change the focus from the richest to the brokest” - kick ass line!) “Maniac,” Eve (best song to listen to after a night at a club) “Queen Bitch Part 2,” L’il Kim “N.O.T.O.R.I.O.U.S.,” Biggie “Drug Ballad,” Eminem (I generally do not like Em, but this song is awesome - especially the chorus, whoa-oh!) “XXplosive,” Dr. Dre (I love the beat, also on the new Erikah Badu song, “Bag Lady”) “Forgot About Dre,” Dr Dre and Eminem “Miss Jackson,” OutKast I agree that OutKast is unbelievable. I also think Dr Dre is an awesome producer, and I love Eve and L’il Kim for being so honest and real. Incidentally, I saw OutKast last night in DC and they were so fucking awesome! I had the best time. Incredible live show. 🙂 And FTR, Limp Bizkit is NOT rap. They have no flow. Screaming words is not rap - my definition is much pickier than that, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Kilgore\_Trout\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6de8d8/32.png) [@Kilgore\_Trout\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilgore_Trout_1)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2000, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-rap-song-and-group-even-though-i-dont-like-rap/40480/42 "2000-11-12T05:25:33Z")
someone who says this: > [@](#): > > Limp Bizkit isn’t so bad has no right saying this: > [@](#): > > rap is a lower form of music imo. ---
**Author:** ![Darqangelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@Darqangelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darqangelle)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2000, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-rap-song-and-group-even-though-i-dont-like-rap/40480/43 "2000-11-12T18:19:29Z")
Phenomenon by LLCoolJ …I dunno, I just like that Bill Withers bass lick. and another vote for Bring Tha Noize by Public Enemy and Anthrax ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2000, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-rap-song-and-group-even-though-i-dont-like-rap/40480/44 "2000-11-12T18:33:39Z")
I’ll be totally unoriginal and add to the gushing over Public Enemy and _Nation of Millions_. I also have to agree with Milossarian that _Paul’s Boutique_ is inexplicably underrated. The Roots’ last album, _Things Fall Apart_, is amazing. Did anyone else find anything wrong with this statement? > [@](#): > > I agree with your first line. I dont’t even like rap. > The most I’ve ever heard is the 30 seconds worth waiting at the light when some loser has the bass turned to Stun. Then how do you know you don’t like it? Dr. J ---
**Author:** ![Kaps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a87d85/32.png) [@Kaps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaps)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2000, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-rap-song-and-group-even-though-i-dont-like-rap/40480/45 "2000-11-12T23:44:37Z")
If y’all like Dr. Dre’s beats, then you should check out some songs produced by Cold 187um from Above the Law. I don’t like Dr. Dre that much, although I have a lot of the old N.W.A. stuff. ---
**Author:** ![toonerama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecae2f/32.png) [@toonerama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toonerama)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2000, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-rap-song-and-group-even-though-i-dont-like-rap/40480/46 "2000-11-13T01:19:44Z")
I can’t really relate to all the gangster stuff, but for a brilliant album of really meaningful words and great music you gotta check One Day It’ll All Make Sense by Common Others I like: Black On Both Sides - Mos Def Wu-Tang Forever - Wu-Tang Clan Aquemini - Outkast ---
**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2000, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-rap-song-and-group-even-though-i-dont-like-rap/40480/47 "2000-11-13T01:24:24Z")
The closest I come to liking rap is Kid Rock’s “Cowboy”, and that’s only because the background music is Country Hardcore. ---
**Author:** ![blastfurnace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@blastfurnace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blastfurnace)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-rap-song-and-group-even-though-i-dont-like-rap/40480/48 "2000-11-17T05:07:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Satan \* > **Best rap single ever hands down is the “The Show” backed with “Lodi Dodi” by Doug E. Fresh and Slick Rick.** Satan, You nailed that puppy on the head. A close second would be The Rappin’ Duke. _“While you were in diapers, Wettin’ the sheets, I was at the Ponderosa Rappin’ to the beat. Da-ha, da-ha, Da-haha haha ha”_ Now, that is ART. ---
**Author:** ![nevermore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a587f6/32.png) [@nevermore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nevermore)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-rap-song-and-group-even-though-i-dont-like-rap/40480/49 "2000-11-17T08:20:53Z")
I like (some) rap for two different reasons; the music/talent and the outrageousness of some of the content, the latter because it makes me laugh. So I like basically two different kinds of rap. For example, KRS-One is the musical and intelligent best, but he’s really more hip-hop than rap, which I consider different but similar genres. Snoop and Dre are kind of a mixture of the two categories. UGK, on the other hand–it’s all about the hilarity. “18 inch lorenzos yokahama tires, when i ride by all them bitches think they pussy on fire”–from a song called “they ain’t trippin on me; they wanna fuck my car.” They crack me up. Same w/ Eazy-E: anybody ever heard “Gimme That Nutt”? First time I heard it I laughed 'til I cried. ---
**Author:** ![xanadu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c4cdca/32.png) [@xanadu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xanadu)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2000, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-rap-song-and-group-even-though-i-dont-like-rap/40480/50 "2000-11-18T01:35:59Z")
I’m not the world’s biggest rap fan, but I really, really like “Country Grammar” by Nelly. That damn song has been stuck in my head for about a week and a half now. Other good songs: “Gin and Juice”, “Gangsta’s Paradise”, and anything by Coolio. ---
**Author:** ![Bob\_Scene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Bob\_Scene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Scene)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2000, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-rap-song-and-group-even-though-i-dont-like-rap/40480/51 "2000-11-18T09:17:42Z")
“You’re Gonna Get Yours” by Public Enemy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-best-rap-song-and-group-even-though-i-dont-like-rap/40480.md?page=2)