# What is the body? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 9, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843 "2019-03-09T19:38:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/21 "2019-03-11T01:13:07Z")
> [@Machinaforce](#): > > Wish I could say that, but dont the rules of argument say you have to say WHY. I mean he says science “agrees with it”. Sure you do, they’ve been pointed out to you in all the previous threads of a similar ilk. It basically boils down to the fact that all these theories you stumble across have no evidence, make up meaningless jargon, assume facts not presented, and use awful logic. In short, they’re crap arguments. Can we convince you of anything if we say “science agrees with it”? ---
**Author:** ![Machinaforce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@Machinaforce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machinaforce)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/22 "2019-03-11T02:13:46Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Sure you do, they’ve been pointed out to you in all the previous threads of a similar ilk. It basically boils down to the fact that all these theories you stumble across have no evidence, make up meaningless jargon, assume facts not presented, and use awful logic. In short, they’re crap arguments. > > Can we convince you of anything if we say “science agrees with it”? Apparently yes. Because I fear that I am missing something or maybe there is something too it I dont see. Or maybe there isn’t and im just falling for another thing because it shocks me. ---
**Author:** ![Machinaforce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@Machinaforce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machinaforce)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/23 "2019-03-11T14:07:12Z")
I just wish I knew if this was right or not. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/24 "2019-03-11T14:11:03Z")
> [@Machinaforce](#): > > I just wish I knew if this was right or not. It’s not. The problem isn’t with the wingnut theory, it’s with your inability to accept logic. But you already know that. ---
**Author:** ![Machinaforce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@Machinaforce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machinaforce)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/25 "2019-03-11T17:47:29Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > It’s not. The problem isn’t with the wingnut theory, it’s with your inability to accept logic. But you already know that. Logic seems to side with him since he is saying that all that can be verified is the experience not the object or physicality ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/26 "2019-03-11T18:28:13Z")
> [@Machinaforce](#): > > Logic seems to side with him since he is saying that all that can be verified is the experience not the object or physicality That’s poor logic and poor philosophy. You don’t seem to have a particularly good grasp of either. Your previous threads are pretty clear on this. ---
**Author:** ![Machinaforce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@Machinaforce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machinaforce)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/27 "2019-03-11T21:06:16Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > That’s poor logic and poor philosophy. You don’t seem to have a particularly good grasp of either. Your previous threads are pretty clear on this. I am well aware of that, but the fear of being wrong and missing out is real though. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/28 "2019-03-11T21:12:05Z")
> [@Machinaforce](#): > > I am well aware of that, but the fear of being wrong and missing out is real though. Why? Missing out on what? Different people have different ways of looking at things and understanding their place in the world. Understanding this particular guy isn’t likely to bring you comfort. Or, if you prefer, just accept he’s 100% got it all figured out. What do you do then? Same as now, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Machinaforce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@Machinaforce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machinaforce)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/29 "2019-03-11T21:38:43Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Why? Missing out on what? Different people have different ways of looking at things and understanding their place in the world. Understanding this particular guy isn’t likely to bring you comfort. Or, if you prefer, just accept he’s 100% got it all figured out. What do you do then? Same as now, I suppose. Well it was like with previous threads where “if I cannot find a solution then they must be right”. OR “if I don’t listen to them then I’m living a lie”. OF course looking at it logically that can apply to just about ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING. It seems silly and to be honest this intense fear and anxiety doesn’t really feel that justified. But whenever the way I live and understand life is threatened then those feelings come back to the surface. Like in who you really are. Some say there is no such thing, that we change and adapt all the time and who we are today isn’t the same down the road. Others say there is some untainted version of you and that worldly experience creates a “false version of you”. I don’t know either but if there is no “who you really are” then I don’t know how to guide my life. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/30 "2019-03-11T22:11:07Z")
**Machinaforce** : You need some kind of introductory philosophy book. If you read the book and you still feel completely lost, try a therapist. ---
**Author:** ![Machinaforce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@Machinaforce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machinaforce)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/31 "2019-03-11T22:23:31Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > **Machinaforce** : You need some kind of introductory philosophy book. > > If you read the book and you still feel completely lost, try a therapist. I tried and intro to philosophy book, but I didn’t really understand it. It also ended up doing more harm than good. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/32 "2019-03-11T23:39:14Z")
> [@Machinaforce](#): > > Well it was like with previous threads where “if I cannot find a solution then they must be right”. OR “if I don’t listen to them then I’m living a lie”. Have any of your similar threads brought you any relief or insight into why this bothers you so much? Or are we doomed to repeat this cycle again and again? ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/33 "2019-03-12T00:59:36Z")
> [@Machinaforce](#): > > Well it was like with previous threads where “if I cannot find a solution then they must be right”. OR “if I don’t listen to them then I’m living a lie”. > > OF course looking at it logically that can apply to just about ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING. It seems silly and to be honest this intense fear and anxiety doesn’t really feel that justified. But whenever the way I live and understand life is threatened then those feelings come back to the surface. > > Like in who you really are. Some say there is no such thing, that we change and adapt all the time and who we are today isn’t the same down the road. Others say there is some untainted version of you and that worldly experience creates a “false version of you”. I don’t know either but if there is no “who you really are” then I don’t know how to guide my life. Sounds like you need someone to just tell you exactly what to believe, here it is: Your body is real The world is real Consciousness is the word we use to describe the experience going on inside our minds That’s it. ---
**Author:** ![Machinaforce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@Machinaforce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machinaforce)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/34 "2019-03-12T02:11:29Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Have any of your similar threads brought you any relief or insight into why this bothers you so much? Or are we doomed to repeat this cycle again and again? Not really, it’s more like this just gets buried down deep as another disaster surfaces. I still haven’t gotten over the whole “the mind is pictures taken from our experience and is recorded in the body,but the experience isn’t you for it is the false mind.Therefor you must cleanse yourself of the thinking patterns shaped by experience to find the true self and become truth.” That it isn’t really you because you weren’t born that way. SO living a lie is my number one fear. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/35 "2019-03-12T03:35:33Z")
A guy that doesn’t have time to bleed. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843/36 "2019-03-12T05:46:56Z")
In the trichotomy of self:　mind, body, soul, strict distinctions are, as yet, unkown (that is even assuming you ascribe to a trichotomy). Don’t panic. Everything is normal, for certain levels of normal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-body/830843.md?page=1)