# What is the Chinese word for (the beast) 'mammoth?'

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The English word ‘mammoth’ has its origins in word in some Siberian native language that more or less translated to ‘earth’ or ‘underground.’ In a 1957 documentary “Letter from Siberia,” the narrator says that the ancient Siberians and Chinese thought that these great ‘underground’ bones must have belonged to a giant mole! The narrator further says that in \*Chinese the word for mammoth is (phonetically) ‘troo-moo,’ which means ‘mother of mice’ (OK to the ancients, I guess moles were just burrowing mice).

Anyway. . .

From what cursory Googling, it appears the most likely word for ‘mammoth’ in Chinese translates to ‘hairy elephant.’ Fair enough.

The GQs:

Does something phonetically akin to ‘troo-moo’ in [a] Chinese [language] translate to ‘mother of mice?’  
Can it be verified that that was indeed a local name for mammoths (or at least the burrowing beast thought to have left the bones behind) at one time ?  
\*The narration did not specify which Chinese language.

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> **[Yin Shu](https://abookofcreatures.com/2016/09/26/yin-shu/)**
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> Variations: Tien-schu, Tin-schu, Tyn-schu, Yn-schu In Siberia, mammoth fossils were seen as the remains of giant mole-like creatures that lived and moved underground. These subterannean monsters to…

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> Variations: Tien-schu, Tin-schu, Tyn-schu, Yn-schu, Yin-Shu  
> In Siberia, mammoth fossils were seen as the remains of giant mole-like creatures that lived and moved underground. These subterannean monsters tore up riverbanks as they tunneled, but died in broad daylight.
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> In China, numerous sources, including the treatise Ly-Ki, tell of the Yin Shu, the “Hidden Rodent” or “Hidden Mouse” that dwells in dark caves. The yin shu grows from the size of a buffalo to as big as an elephant in Manchurian manuscripts, but otherwise looks mouselike. It has a no tail (or a short tail), is dark in color, and has short legs, a short neck, and small eyes. Yin shu are dim-witted, slow, and extremely powerful, digging out caves in areas with the roots of the fu-kia plant. They have shown up when rivers flooded plains, and die instantly when exposed to sunlight.
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> Until recently, mammoth bones in drugstores were labeled as yin shu.

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“moo” or “mu” is one of many ways to say “mother” in Mandarin. Parents 父母 Fu Mu (Father & Mother).

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Edit: If your narrator is Siberian, it is probably something entirely differently.

Sorry, I don’t know how to phonetically type Chinese, but maybe “troo” could be “shǔ”?

If so, that’d make it 鼠母, literally “rat mother” or maybe “rat matriarch” as an honorific. You can [hear it here](https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&text=%E9%BC%A0%E6%AF%8D) in Mandarin.

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I just listened to the doc again, and it sounded more like ‘chu mu,’ which is close enough. Thanks, all!
