# What is the crime history of Zimmerman's neighborhood he was "watching"? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 19, 2013, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-crime-history-of-zimmermans-neighborhood-he-was-watching/663988 "2013-07-19T23:13:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-crime-history-of-zimmermans-neighborhood-he-was-watching/663988/81 "2013-07-22T17:28:10Z")
> [@Hippy\_Hollow](#): > > Nonsense. Zimmerman was in a vehicle, ostensibly (and erroneously) noticed a “suspicious” individual, continued to follow him (even after reporting it to a 911 dispatcher), and then exited the vehicle. How is that not showing aggression to someone who has done nothing wrong? (shortened for my convience) What “aggression” was shown by getting out of a vehicle AFTER the suspicious person had ran away? Who was GZ encountering when he exited the vehicle? As far as he knew, he was alone. There was certainly no “immininent danger” or “threat” at that point in time. There is nothing illegal about the act of exiting a vehicle. GZ didn’t know where TM was and TM indicated that he had lost the (insert “n” word here) and creepy azz cracker. The first encounter was over. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-crime-history-of-zimmermans-neighborhood-he-was-watching/663988/82 "2013-07-22T21:02:21Z")
“_Cloaked_ in chocolate. _Totally_ different process.” > [@Bricker](#): > > Did you see that on a TV show? The Twix commercial. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-crime-history-of-zimmermans-neighborhood-he-was-watching/663988/83 "2013-07-22T21:46:57Z")
> [@Hippy\_Hollow](#): > > That blew my mind, that someone would be so oblivious to the danger of walking so close to someone in the dark in a relatively desolate city block late at night. What, you think women get taught about times and places _you_ might be afraid of _us_? I promise you, we don’t. Our lessons about danger and fear are exclusively about what men might do to us because they perceive us as prey, not because they perceive us as potential predators. If anything, the things we’re taught make it likely we’re going to stay fairly close (but far enough away to make a run for it if he starts behaving suspiciously) to the guy walking in front of us. His presence makes it less likely some other guy will jump us, and he’s a potential source of help if something was to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Tollhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tollhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tollhouse)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-crime-history-of-zimmermans-neighborhood-he-was-watching/663988/84 "2013-07-22T22:07:36Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Thanks for asking. The whole phrase is “daddy fiance house”. Jeantel actually used that phrase during her testimony. What phrase would you prefer I use? I see, so in other words you are making fun of her style of speech. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-crime-history-of-zimmermans-neighborhood-he-was-watching/663988/85 "2013-07-22T22:51:34Z")
> [@Tollhouse](#): > > I see, so in other words you are making fun of her style of speech. No, you don’t see but don’t let that stop you now. I used Jeantel’s phrase so as not to confuse the issue any more than it already has been. So you decide to object to my quoting Jeantel’s trial testimony. Really? Seriously? TM was some 300 feet away from the “T”, according to Jeantel’s testimony. That indicates that TM had to travel some 300 feet back to the 'T" area to confront GZ. Unless you don’t believe Jeantel, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Tollhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tollhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tollhouse)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2013, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-crime-history-of-zimmermans-neighborhood-he-was-watching/663988/86 "2013-07-22T23:35:02Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > No, you don’t see but don’t let that stop you now. I used Jeantel’s phrase so as not to confuse the issue any more than it already has been. So you decide to object to my quoting Jeantel’s trial testimony. Really? Seriously? > > TM was some 300 feet away from the “T”, according to Jeantel’s testimony. That indicates that TM had to travel some 300 feet back to the 'T" area to confront GZ. Unless you don’t believe Jeantel, of course. I see. I really, seriously believe you. ---
**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-crime-history-of-zimmermans-neighborhood-he-was-watching/663988/87 "2013-07-23T00:39:42Z")
> [@Tollhouse](#): > > I see, so in other words you are making fun of her style of speech. Baby daddy. Baby mama. Daddy fiancée. Mamma fiancé. It just reflects a _very common_ grammatical form in the Caribbean. The possessive **'s** is dropped. Jeantel has deep Caribbean family roots and I am not surprised she uses this grammatical construct. Language evolves. Get used to it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-crime-history-of-zimmermans-neighborhood-he-was-watching/663988.md?page=4)