# What is the deal with the Obama is gay claims?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 26, 2014, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622 "2014-09-26T06:47:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/41 "2014-09-29T20:28:39Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Or Worldnetdaily

Yeah, I think Jerome Corsi is a big proponent.

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**Author:** ![MrsTime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@MrsTime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrsTime)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/42 "2014-09-30T16:22:18Z")

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As someone looking in from another country it appears the hatred for Obama is over the top. I am frankly surprised that he is still alive. I have seen it go from his policies, to a lack of policies. He likes something different on his hot dog, huge scandal. His eldest daughter has been accused of being freakishly tall, both have been called ugly and then there is that horrid Michelle she is going to “force” people to feed their kids right.

I know the Clinton’s had a lot of hate directed at them including Chelsea, but it didn’t seem as widespread.

I am continually amazed by some of the silly things people find so scandalous about the Obamas.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/43 "2014-09-30T16:38:03Z")

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Left wingers are the only ones I have ever heard call Obama an atheist, but I don’t frequent many right wing sites.

[Cite](http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/01/24/richard-dawkins-barack-obama-probably-is-an-atheist-lincoln-kennedy-clinton-too/), [cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=640455&highlight=Obama+atheist).

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/44 "2014-09-30T16:42:31Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Because, don’t you know, all Democrats are a bunch of Arugula eating, Latte drinking Volvo driving homosexuals…

Wrong! The lesbians around here drive Subarus.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/45 "2014-09-30T17:22:53Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Left wingers are the only ones I have ever heard call Obama an atheist, but I don’t frequent many right wing sites.
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> [Cite](http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/01/24/richard-dawkins-barack-obama-probably-is-an-atheist-lincoln-kennedy-clinton-too/), [cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=640455&highlight=Obama+atheist).
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

When we do it, its a compliment, as in “Oh Obama? He’s too smart to be a Christian, he’s probably secretly atheist because people would judge him unfairly if he were to be an open atheist”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/46 "2014-09-30T17:42:51Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> When we do it, its a compliment, as in “Oh Obama? He’s too smart to be a Christian, he’s probably secretly atheist because people would judge him unfairly if he were to be an open atheist”

Right. And as I’ve said in some other threads - and so have other posters - calling a guy a gigantic liar is hardly a compliment.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/47 "2014-09-30T18:58:35Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Left wingers are the only ones I have ever heard call Obama an atheist, but I don’t frequent many right wing sites.
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> [Cite](http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/01/24/richard-dawkins-barack-obama-probably-is-an-atheist-lincoln-kennedy-clinton-too/), [cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=640455&highlight=Obama+atheist).
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Oh, I get it. Atheists assume Obama is an atheist. So the people saying Obama must be a closeted gay man are closeted gay men.

He’s such a Rorschach.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/48 "2014-09-30T19:06:03Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Left wingers are the only ones I have ever heard call Obama an atheist, but I don’t frequent many right wing sites.
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> [Cite](http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/01/24/richard-dawkins-barack-obama-probably-is-an-atheist-lincoln-kennedy-clinton-too/), [cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=640455&highlight=Obama+atheist).
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Right wingers skip the Atheist label and just call him the Antichrist.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/49 "2014-09-30T20:17:32Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Right. And as I’ve said in some other threads - and so have other posters - calling a guy a gigantic liar is hardly a compliment.

Its lying to protect oneself from unfair treatment. If a guy living in the 1860’s wes 1/8 black but looked white, I wouldn’t fault him for lying and saying he’s white. Just like how gays often lie when they live in hostile areas as a form of protection, I don’t really hold it against them. Obama might be lying about his religion, but given the extremists who think that a person’s lack of religion should matter in terms of being a good public servant, I can’t fault him for that. If you and I can agree that we both think being an atheist would have no negative impact as it relates to his job performance, but being open about it would, then there’s no good reason not to lie about it

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/50 "2014-10-01T12:05:16Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Left wingers are the only ones I have ever heard call Obama an atheist, but I don’t frequent many right wing sites.
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> [Cite](http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/01/24/richard-dawkins-barack-obama-probably-is-an-atheist-lincoln-kennedy-clinton-too/), [cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=640455&highlight=Obama+atheist).
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Quite true- Richard Dawkins, for instance, has stated publicly that he’s sure Obama is an atheist. Deranged right wingers generally say he’s a Muslim.

I think left-wingers have always told themselves “Obama is just like us- if he SAYS like he’s a Christian, well, that’s just to fool the rubes and get votes. If he SAYS he’s against gay marriage, well, we know he’s SECRETLY for it.”

Sometimes they’re right and sometimes they’re wrong.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/51 "2014-10-01T12:45:34Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Its lying to protect oneself from unfair treatment. If a guy living in the 1860’s wes 1/8 black but looked white, I wouldn’t fault him for lying and saying he’s white. Just like how gays often lie when they live in hostile areas as a form of protection, I don’t really hold it against them. Obama might be lying about his religion, but given the extremists who think that a person’s lack of religion should matter in terms of being a good public servant, I can’t fault him for that. If you and I can agree that we both think being an atheist would have no negative impact as it relates to his job performance, but being open about it would, then there’s no good reason not to lie about it

As ever, IOKIADDI. Although I must give you credit - you are at least honest about your double standards, if such a thing is possible.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/52 "2014-10-01T16:16:46Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Quite true- Richard Dawkins, for instance, has stated publicly that he’s sure Obama is an atheist. Deranged right wingers generally say he’s a Muslim.

It’s split between Muslim, atheist, and some sort of radical black quasi-Christian who is probably the Antichrist.

See, you can tell he’s an atheist because he’s a commie pinko and commie pinkos are atheist. You can tell he’s a Muslim because he loves him some Muslims (oh, sorry, Mooselims). And you can tell he’s the Antichrist because he’s a Democrat.

From a freeper: “Barack Obama is BOTH atheist and Muslim. He combines all the awfulness of atheism with the awfulness of Islam. He likes to combine the lack of morality atheists have with the anti-American tenets of Islam. How is this so hard for people to understand?”

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/53 "2014-10-01T17:46:32Z")

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> [@ZenBeam](#):
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> You know how people from that region of the world are about the bottoms of shoes. Obama is pointing the bottom of his shoe _right at the guy!_ And the guy _doesn’t mind!!_
> 
> Open your eyes, man!

Well, I guess we know who’s the pitcher and who’s the catcher in that relationship.

> [@MrsTime](#):
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> As someone looking in from another country it appears the hatred for Obama is over the top. I am frankly surprised that he is still alive.

So are we all, seeing as how the Secret Service makes the Keystone Kops look like Batman.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/54 "2014-10-01T18:47:01Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> As ever, IOKIADDI. Although I must give you credit - you are at least honest about your double standards, if such a thing is possible.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Sure, if lying to protect yourself is a bad thing, then I guess I’m a bad person. Not big on the concept of self-defense I guess?

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**Author:** ![Fleetwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fleetwood/32/271_2.png) [@Fleetwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fleetwood)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/55 "2014-10-01T19:31:58Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> EDIT:I know it is total bullshit BTW so need to refute it. I was curious where this nuttery is coming from, and why Obama.

I’m sure he sleeps better at night knowing you’re on the job.

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**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/56 "2014-10-02T06:07:00Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> The deal is that people are weird and insane and sometimes hateful. The stuff these people say about Michelle Obama also manages to be kind of racist, since I think they see a black woman as unfeminine. In short - the deal is that dumb people are dumb. Film at 11.

Premise: you think they think black women are unfeminine.  
Conclusion: the things they say are kind of racist.

Yes, indeed, dumb people are dumb.

> [@grude](#):
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> [http://hillbuzz.org/is-barack-obama-gay](http://hillbuzz.org/is-barack-obama-gay)

Just a note: the founder of that site, Kevin DuJan, is gay. That doesn’t make his opinions true, of course, but it’s unlikely he makes them because he hates gays or thinks being gay is bad.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-deal-with-the-obama-is-gay-claims/699622/57 "2014-10-05T15:35:19Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> It’s split between Muslim, atheist, and some sort of radical black quasi-Christian who is probably the Antichrist.

Tell them that all these hats spin on a rotating Lazy-Susan over his head at all times & he only decides which one to wear by whatever number comes up on the Pop-O-Matic on his desk.

If he manages to roll a 6, its the one that says, “Hi, I’m Barry! Welcome to The White House…”

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