# What is the definition of trolling according to SDMB Mods? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 21, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983 "2012-07-21T19:23:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/21 "2012-07-21T22:07:30Z")
In > [@John\_Mace](#): > > In my country, delusional is normal. Is not insult. Sister is delusional, mother is delusional. Is sad day all over American countryland when delusional become insult. In Soviet Union, internet trolls you! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/22 "2012-07-21T22:13:13Z")
To put it as charitably as possible, as I suggested in his other thread, **gvozd** is having some cultural impedance mismatch here, maybe? What is considered normal and acceptable discourse in Turkey? Is the stereotype of Black = Big Dick really a widely accepted “fact” there, and is it considered acceptable to say things like that? I don’t know if certain parts of the world are on the same page as certain other parts of the world, regarding cross-cultural sensitivity, and avoiding stereotypes, etc. It seems that **gvozd** needs to understand that this won’t fly in mainstream American culture. And he may run into trouble saying things like that in Europe too. (He’s studying in Germany now, is he not?) We also wonder why a 19-year-old college student who’s already abandoned all hope of ever having a female in his life is asking this question. (Does he need to know fast? Or is he just looking for some light-duty-dirty porn talk to help himself relieve that horrible itch of which he complains?) I myself took him seriously in his anti-sex-drive thread and tried to make some realistic suggestions that actually responded to his OP there, while everybody else piled on the BSDL. But now with his fat-puss thread, he is losing what shred of credibility he may have had. **gvozd** , the message for you is: No, what you wrote isn’t accepted generally in American culture (and probably not in European either), and yes, that is considered inflammatory. To be accepted here, you need to learn that if you don’t know already. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/23 "2012-07-21T22:33:57Z")
> [@gvozd](#): > > Delusional and paranoid are not insult. You are only trying hard to find a reason to ban me. They don’t NEED a reason. The message board is privately owned. You are here by invitation. The owners have the right to withdraw that invitation at any time for any reason, or for no reason. If they want to ban you, they can. And if you continue your behaviour, they certainly will. ---
**Author:** ![gvozd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gvozd/32/7301_2.png) [@gvozd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gvozd)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/24 "2012-07-21T22:35:17Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > **gvozd** , the message for you is: No, what you wrote isn’t accepted generally in American culture (and probably not in European either), and yes, that is considered inflammatory. To be accepted here, you need to learn that if you don’t know already. At long last! Yes, I really did not know that. Now, I can say **Colibri** is mistaken to claim that I pretend “not knowing”. I really did not know. I am not in Germany yet. I will be starting after 6th August if my visa arrives on time. > [@Senegoid](#): > > Is the stereotype of Black = Big Dick really a widely accepted “fact” there, and is it considered acceptable to say things like that? Yes. Big Dick really a widely accepted “fact” here and it is considered acceptable to say things like that. But it might be unacceptable just because of talking about sexual content. > [@Senegoid](#): > > I myself took him seriously in his anti-sex-drive thread and tried to make some realistic suggestions that actually responded to his OP there, while everybody else piled on the BSDL. But now with his fat-puss thread, he is losing what shred of credibility he may have had. Thank you really. > [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Actually, it is a racist comment. > > Anyway, what country are you from where high school biology teachers regularly instruct their students that “African males” have larger penises? regularly? regularly?? regularly??? I politely ask you to stop this attitude. Biology teachers do not regularly instruct their students that “African males” have larger penises. > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > They don’t NEED a reason. The message board is privately owned. You are here by invitation. The owners have the right to withdraw that invitation at any time for any reason, or for no reason. If they want to ban you, they can. And if you continue your behaviour, they certainly will. Exactly. But it will be a illogical reason to ban me because of trolling. _BTW Even if it is not privately owned, they can ban me just because they want to ban me. If you have the power you can do anything. Even if it is unfair._ ---
**Author:** ![gvozd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gvozd/32/7301_2.png) [@gvozd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gvozd)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/25 "2012-07-21T22:42:22Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > in·sult/inˈsəlt/ > Verb: > Speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse. > Noun: > **A disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action.** > Synonyms: > verb. offend - affront - outrage - abuse - hurt - injure > noun. affront - offence - offense - outrage - abuse - indignity Paranoid: > [@](#): > > Definition of paranoid > adjective > > ``` > characterized by or suffering from the mental condition of paranoia: paranoid schizophrenia > unreasonably or obsessively anxious, suspicious, or mistrustful: you think I’m paranoid but I tell you there is something going on > > ``` Delusional: > [@](#): > > noun > > ``` > an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder: the delusion of being watched > [mass noun] the action of deluding or the state of being deluded: what a capacity television has for delusion > > ``` As you can see, they are not insults. NOT AT ALL. Moreover I am very polite person. Even if you insult me, I will be still polite. Yes, some cases might drive me mad but they are rare. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/26 "2012-07-21T22:52:04Z")
> [@gvozd](#): > > At long last! Yes, I really did not know that. > > Now, I can say **Colibri** is mistaken to claim that I pretend “not knowing”. I really did not know. Even if this is true, phrasing the question as vaginal looseness being a way to tell if your wife has been cheating on you with an African would be trolling in itself. > [@](#): > > Exactly. But it will be a illogical reason to ban me because of trolling. If you don’t want to be banned, then you need to be much more careful about what you post here. You claim not to be familiar with American cultural norms. Therefore you should think about what you post very carefully in case it might be offensive. Stick to less volatile and provocative subjects than race, sex, or religion for awhile. Don’t post the first thing that pops into your head. > [@](#): > > _BTW Even if it is not privately owned, they can ban me just because they want to ban me. If you have the power you can do anything. Even if it is unfair._ For the record, just about every troll we’ve ever had here has claimed that they were being treated unfairly and persecuted by the mods and other posters. We would prefer not to ban anyone. However, if you want to continue to post here you’re going to have to adjust your posting style. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/27 "2012-07-21T22:54:01Z")
> [@gvozd](#): > > As you can see, they are not insults. They are regarded as insults in America, and on this board. Don’t use them against other posters except in the Pit, or you will receive a warning for it. I hope this is clear enough for you. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/28 "2012-07-21T22:57:52Z")
> [@gvozd](#): > > Paranoid: > > Delusional: > > As you can see, they are not insults. NOT AT ALL. Moreover I am very polite person. Even if you insult me, I will be still polite. Yes, some cases might drive me mad but they are rare. Are you seriously telling us that, in Turkey, if you tell someone you think they are mentally ill, that’s not an insult? You are crazy. You are an idiot. You’re nuts. You’re lazy. You’re ugly. All insults. I don’t think that’s a cultural thing. ---
**Author:** ![gvozd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gvozd/32/7301_2.png) [@gvozd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gvozd)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/29 "2012-07-21T23:05:37Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Are you seriously telling us that, in Turkey, if you tell someone you think they are mentally ill, that’s not an insult? > > You are crazy. > You are an idiot. > You’re nuts. > You’re lazy. > You’re ugly. > > All insults. I don’t think that’s a cultural thing. There is a big difference between “crazy, idiot, nuts” and “delusional, paranoid”. The second ones suggest you might consider to check your mental state or seeing a doctor. And, the reason to say first ones to someone is only to cause unpleasant emotions to him. If a doctor said one had a mental illness, would he/she be offended? Would you be offended? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/30 "2012-07-21T23:06:41Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > In my country, delusional is normal. Is not insult. Sister is delusional, mother is delusional. Is sad day all over American countryland when delusional become insult. Me from Bizarroland too! ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/31 "2012-07-21T23:09:21Z")
> [@gvozd](#): > > If a doctor said one had a mental illness, would he/she be offended? Would you be offended? You’re not a doctor. Nothing in **elbows’** post gave the least evidence of delusions or paranoia. If someone who was not a doctor told me I had a mental illness when I showed no sign of any symptoms, yes, I would be offended. I don’t really think your grasp of English is this poor. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/32 "2012-07-21T23:19:19Z")
> [@gvozd](#): > > There is a big difference between “crazy, idiot, nuts” and “delusional, paranoid”. No, there isn’t > [@](#): > > The second ones suggest you might consider to check your mental state or seeing a doctor. And, the reason to say first ones to someone is only to cause unpleasant emotions to him. > > If a doctor said one had a mental illness, would he/she be offended? Would you be offended? You didn’t answer the question. In Turkey, if you say someone is delusional or paranoid, is that not an insult? ---
**Author:** ![gvozd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gvozd/32/7301_2.png) [@gvozd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gvozd)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/33 "2012-07-21T23:31:06Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > No, there isn’t There is! :mad: > [@John\_Mace](#): > > You didn’t answer the question. In Turkey, if you say someone is delusional or paranoid, is that not an insult? It depends on how they take it, which does not change the fact that they are not insult. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/34 "2012-07-21T23:32:59Z")
> [@gvozd](#): > > …they are not insult. You keep fighting the good fight, there **zod**. You might win! ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/35 "2012-07-22T01:38:56Z")
I have seen sufficient, thankyouverymuch. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983/36 "2012-07-22T02:10:36Z")
After discussion by the moderators, the OP has been banned for trolling. This is closed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-definition-of-trolling-according-to-sdmb-mods/628983.md?page=1)