# What is the difference between BeatenMan and... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 15, 2003, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052 "2003-06-15T17:43:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2003, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/21 "2003-06-15T21:53:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BeatenMan \* > \*\*Boy is this guy mean or what? \*\* Born and raised in Waco. Quiet little town, you never heard of it, nothing ever happens there. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/22 "2003-06-16T03:01:29Z")
> [@](#): > > If a pole was taken that said: If we are nuked by who ever should we nuke back? You would find most people would want to nuke back. I’m curious. In your opinion, if a country sent covert troops in to assassinate people, ruin the economy, and inflict terror on the populace, would that mean the attacked nation would have the right to retaliate in exactly the same way? ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/23 "2003-06-16T13:36:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elucidator \* > \*\*You’re an Aggie, aren’t you? \*\* HEY! We’re not all dumbasses. Homebrew Fightin’ Texas Aggie Class of '92 ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/24 "2003-06-16T16:40:01Z")
tomndebb, I see where you’re coming from. Don’t think BM will. Maybe I’m not giving him enough credit… ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2003, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/25 "2003-06-16T18:09:13Z")
**BeatenMan** is certainly living down to his nick. ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/26 "2003-06-19T02:20:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tomndebb \* > \*\*I’m curious. In your opinion, if a country sent covert troops in to assassinate people, ruin the economy, and inflict terror on the populace, would that mean the attacked nation would have the right to retaliate in exactly the same way? \*\* BeatenMan, I’m genuinely interested in hearing your opinion on this question. ---
**Author:** ![BeatenMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@BeatenMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeatenMan)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2003, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/27 "2003-06-19T23:33:02Z")
Ben, I really don’t care how Bush does it as long as these arab, muslim towl head what ever freak religious nut cases, get the message we are not going to roll over and take it. That is all I care about. And that is what the American people care about. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/28 "2003-06-20T00:04:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Ben, I really don’t care how Bush does it as long as these arab, muslim towl head what ever freak religious nut cases, get the message we are not going to roll over and take it. That is all I care about. And that is what the American people care about. Yo, **BeatenMan** , I think you’ll find the Mods don’t take kindly to people hurling epithets like “tow **e** l head” in every direction, even here in the Pit. Meanwhile, I’d appreciate knowing just what you mean by that remark. Do you, for example, think that certain Arabs wear the clothes they wear as a uniform of some sort, as some sort of symbol of resistance, or maybe just to annoy easily-angered westerners such as yourself? Do you believe you can identify potential enemies of the United states based on their wearing of non-western clothing? Also, feel free to continue to describe your extensive travels in the middle east, and the insights gleaned during your studies of muslim culture. I’m sure we’d all love to hear them. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/29 "2003-06-20T00:36:10Z")
Oh, and the reason people wear “towels” is because of the heat. I had a professor who showed us his slides from when he went to Egypt-there was one of him sitting on a camel, wearing a “towel.” ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/30 "2003-06-20T00:42:28Z")
Oh, and the reason people wear “towels” is because of the heat. I had a professor who showed us his slides from when he went to Egypt-there was one of him sitting on a camel, wearing a “towel.” ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/31 "2003-06-20T01:12:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BeatenMan \* > \*\*Ben, I really don’t care how Bush does it as long as these arab, muslim towl head what ever freak religious nut cases, get the message we are not going to roll over and take it. That is all I care about. And that is what the American people care about. \*\* You’re not answering the question. I hate to break it to you, but anger doesn’t transform you into a green-skinned master of argumentation. I am not impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2003, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/32 "2003-06-20T01:18:06Z")
What is the difference between BeatenMan and… …WildestBill? - Both are from Texas - Both call for genocide. - Both enjoy plecking people who are more thoughtful than they are. - Neither quite seems to realize that the terms “Muslim,” “Arab,” and “Middle Easterner” are not synonyms. - Both are semi-literate. - In short, to paraphrase _Porky’s_, both are too stupid to even be a successful bigot. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/33 "2003-06-22T12:34:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BeatenMan \* > \*\*Ben, I really don’t care how Bush does it as long as these arab, muslim towl head what ever freak religious nut cases, get the message we are not going to roll over and take it. That is all I care about. And that is what the American people care about. \*\* **BeatenMan** , official warning. I don’t care this is the fucking Pit: you will **NOT** use derogatory terms like “towel head” anywhere on this message board, even if you are too stupid to spell them properly. Failure to heed this warning will result in the revocation of your posting privileges. ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/34 "2003-06-22T14:46:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tomndebb \* > \*\*I’m curious. In your opinion, if a country sent covert troops in to assassinate people, ruin the economy, and inflict terror on the populace, would that mean the attacked nation would have the right to retaliate in exactly the same way? \*\* Answer the question, BeatenMan. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/35 "2003-06-22T15:07:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*Oh, and the reason people wear “towels” is because of the heat. I had a professor who showed us his slides from when he went to Egypt-there was one of him sitting on a camel, wearing a “towel.” \*\* Sort of. It’s to keep the sun off the back of your neck and head so you don’t get fried. People who work outside a lot and nomads actually have a practical use for the headdress. When I used to hike through Joshua Tree or Death Valley, we would frequently tuck our bandanas into the back of our cap and let them dangle for the same reason. For most people, though, it’s just a traditional headdress since they don’t spend quite so much time in the sun. ---
**Author:** ![Read\_Neck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Read\_Neck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Read_Neck)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/36 "2003-06-22T17:54:15Z")
quote:Originally posted by tomndebb I’m curious. In your opinion, if a country sent covert troops in to assassinate people, ruin the economy, and inflict terror on the populace, would that mean the attacked nation would have the right to retaliate in exactly the same way? I would like tomndebb and ben to answer this myself. ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/37 "2003-06-22T18:38:15Z")
Read\_Neck, what’s so difficult about the question? Clearly it’s not legitimate to terrorize a population. What’s your answer? ---
**Author:** ![Read\_Neck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Read\_Neck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Read_Neck)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/38 "2003-06-22T19:19:08Z")
I would think the answer is obvious. Any nation that fails to act in it’s own best interest will not survive. Anyone that equates terms like legitimate,moral or ethical to war is deluded. ---
**Author:** ![Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ben)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2003, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/39 "2003-06-22T19:22:33Z")
So anything goes in war? Including genocide? Terrorism? ---
**Author:** ![Read\_Neck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@Read\_Neck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Read_Neck)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2003, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052/40 "2003-06-23T00:30:13Z")
That’s according to which side of the fence you’re on. Isn’t it? Do you ever wonder what goes through a homicide bombers mind just before he “lights up”? Do they think they’re commiting genocide? What about the hijackers on 9/11? This is a dedicated bunch. They don’t want your house,car or even your IRA plan. They want your life and if given a chance they’ll gladly take it. PLEASE TAKE NOTE!!! Nowhere in this post did I advocate killing all Muslims because of their faith. That argument is too stupid to deserve a response and it’s getting really old. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-beatenman-and/182052.md?page=3)