# What is the difference between cider and juice? \[new title\]

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 24, 2001, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999 "2001-11-24T05:23:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/1 "2001-11-24T05:23:17Z")

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What is the difference between apple cider and apple juice – 100% with out all the sugar type of juice that is?

I looked on a cooking site and it simply stated

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> Cider is made by pressing the juice from fruit (usually apples). It can be drunk straight or diluted with water.

How does that differ from apple juice?

This is bugging me.

Is there any difference in taste?

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**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/2 "2001-11-24T05:25:08Z")

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Ferget it, a kind chat person directed me, a little late 😉 to Cecil’s comments. [http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2\_048.html](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_048.html)

If anyone cares.

\< sheesh \> I knew better than to NOT search first.

\< ding dong \>

Will a kind mod close this puppy before I wither from stupidity? Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Gunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gunslinger)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/3 "2001-11-24T05:28:25Z")

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The definition **racinchikki** and I came up with is that cider is chunky apple juice. Y’know, apple juice is all nice and clear, whereas cider has teeny little bits of apple pulp in it. 🙂

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/4 "2001-11-24T05:31:04Z")

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(just squeezing in a post before the thread’s closed)

Me, I always thought cider came in bottles while apple juice came in cans…

😃

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/5 "2001-11-24T05:37:06Z")

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We have orange soda, grape soda, strawberry soda, even peach soda.

Why no apple soda? Or is there one I don’t know about?

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/6 "2001-11-24T05:44:24Z")

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“If it’s clear and yella’, you’ve got juice there, fella! If it’s tangy and brown, you’re in cider town.”  
-Ned Flanders

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/7 "2001-11-24T05:45:35Z")

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Or if you accept (literaly or metaphoricaly) that mankind ate once and only once of the fruit of the tree of knowledge, one can play this game where one sizes people up as to whether they’d bleed apple juice or cider if cut to their souls.

I’ve always figured techchick68 for cider- not cloyingly sweet, but with a sharp snap just this side of vinegar.

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**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/8 "2001-11-24T05:52:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> \*\*Why no apple soda? Or is there one I don’t know about? \*\*

There was one in the late 70s but for the life of me I can’t recall the name of it. I actually liked it.

Oh wait, I think it was called Aspen. I could be wrong though.

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**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/9 "2001-11-24T05:54:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Slithy Tove \*  
> \*\*I’ve always figured techchick68 for cider- not cloyingly sweet, but with a sharp snap just this side of vinegar. \*\*

\< snicker \>

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/10 "2001-11-24T07:05:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by techchick68 \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> > \*\*Why no apple soda? Or is there one I don’t know about? \*\*
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> There was one in the late 70s but for the life of me I can’t recall the name of it. I actually liked it.
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> Oh wait, I think it was called Aspen. I could be wrong though. \*\*

Yeah, I remember that. It was really good.

Anyway, chunky vs. strained can’t be the whole answer, because there is chunky “natural style” apple juice that doesn’t taste like cider, and there is hard cider that is strained.

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**Author:** ![Genseric](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Genseric](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Genseric)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/11 "2001-11-24T07:31:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> \*\*We have orange soda, grape soda, strawberry soda, even peach soda.
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> Why no apple soda? Or is there one I don’t know about? \*\*

HEB sells a Green Apple flavored Sugar Free Sparkling Water Beverage. It’s basically an Apple soda.

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**Author:** ![LoverBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@LoverBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoverBoy)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/12 "2001-11-24T07:33:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> We have orange soda, grape soda, strawberry soda, even peach soda.
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> Why no apple soda? Or is there one I don’t know about?

[Jones Green Apple Soda (includes link to purchase it.)](http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/jones)  
[Batch No. 6 Apple Soda](http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/batch_no6)

I think Fanta also markets an apple soda in parts of Europe and Africa.

- Rob

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/13 "2001-11-24T07:36:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by LoverBoy \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> > We have orange soda, grape soda, strawberry soda, even peach soda.
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> > Why no apple soda? Or is there one I don’t know about?
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> [Jones Green Apple Soda (includes link to purchase it.)](http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/jones)  
> [Batch No. 6 Apple Soda](http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/batch_no6)
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> I think Fanta also markets an apple soda in parts of Europe and Africa.
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> - Rob \*\*

and Asia. We have it here in Taiwan, too… (yummmm…)

there’s also another type of apple soda here, called “Apple Sidra”. Yes, spelled that way. Something to do with the Chinese version of the brand name, I think…

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/14 "2001-11-24T07:40:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by techchick68 \*  
> What is the difference between apple cider and apple juice – 100% with out all the sugar type of juice that is?

Well, I’ve always thought the technical difference is that apple juice is pasteurized but cider is not. I think they have begun to pasteurize apple ciders over e. coli fears, however.

Cider is usually more spicy and flavorful - apple juice tastes watered-down in comparison, to me. The only good cider I’ve had comes in the same plastic jugs that milk does (usually apple juice comes in plastic bottles.) YMMV, of course.

Damn. I just saw the link to Cecil’s column. I’ll still post this anyways.

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**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/15 "2001-11-24T13:20:08Z")

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I always assumed that “cider” was the same than the french “cidre”, in other words, apple juice fermentated, hence having an alcoholic content similar to beer.

So, what’s the english name for the alcoholic and sparkling beverage made out of apple juice? My dictionnary insists on calling it “cider”, but obviously, the cider you’re talking about isn’t the same thing…

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/16 "2001-11-24T13:54:58Z")

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There’s also a relatively famous ‘apple soda’ (well, fizzy apple drink) called AppleTise.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/17 "2001-11-24T14:12:15Z")

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actually you can get apple soda at anyy store that sells to a hispanic community ( wel lhere around la anyways ) althouhg i forget what the hispanic word they use for it is

Now coke is selling a apple soda called mia although I think this was a seasonal thing Also slice in the early 80s had a apple flavor

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> \*Originally posted by clairobscur \*  
> \*\*I always assumed that “cider” was the same than the french “cidre”, in other words, apple juice fermentated, hence having an alcoholic content similar to beer.
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> So, what’s the english name for the alcoholic and sparkling beverage made out of apple juice? My dictionnary insists on calling it “cider”, but obviously, the cider you’re talking about isn’t the same thing… \*\*

I think there’s something like “pommaine” that is apple wine. However in Britain “cider” always means apple beer, same as in France. Most pubs sell it draught, and it has between 5 and 9 per cent alcohol usually. I don’t know whether cider is made differently from apple wine.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/19 "2001-11-24T18:39:19Z")

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there is an apple soda. It’s called Sidral Mundet and it’s made in Mexico. Available at some Mexican groceries - not bad if you like that kind of thing.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-difference-between-cider-and-juice-new-title/94999/20 "2001-11-24T22:25:52Z")

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Apple cider is made by pressing the apples in a big press through a screen (to remove seeds, stems, peels and whatnot). It’s then pasteurized and bottled. It’s pretty much straight from the apple.  
Apple juice is strained a whole lot more. It’s also highly processed, with preservatives. Apple juice is also often watered down, had sugar added to it, and some coloring to make it appear to be uniform color.  
Cider will also ferment, and apple juice won’t.  
(I may not be 100% right, but it’s basically how it goes.)

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