# What is the end game of Islam?

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**Created:** [August 26, 2006, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-end-game-of-islam/370312 "2006-08-26T12:28:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-end-game-of-islam/370312/1 "2006-08-26T12:28:48Z")

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What is their end of the world prophecy according to the Koran? What is the roll of the faithful torwards this end game?

I have been lead to believe that it is world conquest by the faithful, which really leaves no room nor reason to talk about it unless we can get to and colonize other planets. Is this a valid interpertation?

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**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-end-game-of-islam/370312/2 "2006-08-26T14:33:25Z")

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The general concept you’re talking about is [Eschatology](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eschatology). The Muslim version of the end of the world is called [Qiyamah](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qiyamah), and, as one would expect from a faith that is closely related to Judaism and Christianity, it’s reasonably similar to the version of events that’s found in Revelation.

In my experience, the faithful tend to roll downhill.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-end-game-of-islam/370312/3 "2006-08-26T16:24:27Z")

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One detail in Islamic eschatological prophecy made me curious. The “Beast of the Earth.” This is a minor sideline of the narrative. A Beast will come out of the ground. It will talk to people and foretell things to come. That’s all the prophecy said about it. WTF?

Otherwise, the Islamic Last Days narrative is pretty similar to the Christian, in broad outlines. The Second Coming of Christ will be Islamic, of course. He will return to fight _al-Masih al-Dajjal_ (the Antichrist). The Mahdi and the Second Coming of Christ will team up for the final battle, like superheroes in a movie. Some of these descriptions read pretty cinematic. But I keep wondering about that cute talking Beast…

The prophecy that “the sun will rise in the West” has been taken metaphorically by some American Muslims to refer to the growth of Islam over here. These must be… the End Times! Also, the prophecy about the Dajjal – a deceiver who will be believed and followed by people the world over – says the Dajjal has only _one eye._ So some modern interpretations say the Dajjal is obviously the television. I tend to agree with this!

In the End Times there will be only one man for every 50 women. Yeah, I’m doing my share to help immanentize the Eschaton. fnord

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-end-game-of-islam/370312/4 "2006-08-26T17:14:00Z")

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From black rabbit’s Wiki cite:

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> In Islam, it is believed that on the Day of Reckoning, God will judge the dead, sending the righteous to Heaven and unrepentant evildoers to Hell.
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> Some Ahadith include a Muhammad-like holy warrior, the Mahdi (whom Shi’a equate with the long-lived Twelfth Imam), who will be accompanied by the Prophet Jesus to fight the Antichrist, various Beasts, the Gog and Magog tradition, angelic heralds with trumpets, civil war, natural disasters and signs in the heavens, and a clash between Jesus and the Antichrist.
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> Mahdi will fight Antichrist; but it will be Jesus who kills him at the gate of Ludd. Then Gog and Magog will appear from all directions, drink all water. Jesus and the believers will go to the mountains; Jesus will pray to God Almighty and He will send worm like creatures that will attack Gog and Magog on their necks. Then huge birds with camel like necks will carry their corpses away. The earth will be washed with rains. There will be peace on earth for 40 years. Jesus will marry and pass away at the end of the 40 year period. He will be buried in Medina right by Prophet Muhammed and his companions. And then corruption and disbelief will become common again; the beast of earth will appear; and the sun will rise from the west which would be signaling the final hour. Then there will come a wind that will take all believers and leave earth full of disbelievers and the trumpet will sound for the final destruction.

As Johanna noted, its very similar to Judaism/Christianity (no wonder either, as it spins off of both). The Wiki article black rabbit posted also goes into the other major religions…its worth the read if you are interested in this stuff.

-XT

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2006, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-end-game-of-islam/370312/5 "2006-08-27T00:23:17Z")

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> Some Ahadith include a Muhammad-like holy warrior, the Mahdi (whom Shi’a equate with the long-lived Twelfth Imam), who will be accompanied by the Prophet Jesus to fight the Antichrist, various Beasts, the Gog and Magog tradition, angelic heralds with trumpets, civil war, natural disasters and signs in the heavens, and a clash between Jesus and the Antichrist.

Joel Schumacher directs.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2006, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-end-game-of-islam/370312/6 "2006-08-27T00:26:46Z")

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[QUOTE=kanicbird]  
What is their end of the world prophecy according to the Koran?  
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I presume you’re posting this in the knowledge that “Islam” is very diverse, and many followers do not adhere to eschatology.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2006, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-end-game-of-islam/370312/7 "2006-08-27T05:40:51Z")

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My favorite part of the Islamic “end of the world” is where the idols ask those who made them, “Did we tell you to worship us?”
