# What is the Import of Mike Johnson's Win as Speaker of the House? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [October 25, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097 "2023-10-25T18:20:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/101 "2023-10-31T16:17:33Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > One reason why the funding is so vulnerable is because Democrats and the Administration have been terrible at messaging why the additional IRS funding is a good thing. Right. MAGAS hate the IRS. So do some powerful republicans as well. For the MAGAS it’s “Why they takin my money?” For the powerful republicans it’s “If I can hide this crooked move, I might get away with it.” ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/102 "2023-11-01T01:11:26Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > What I’ve read: > > 1. Mike Johnson was unvetted. So lots of stuff will come out, starting with his podcast. For example, he thinks mass shootings are a result of no-fault divorce laws and feminism. Homosexuality is unnatural, dangerous, and could destroy the entire democratic system he said, decades before providing a legal framework for overturning a not-that-close Presidential election. You say that as if that entire spiel won’t be ecstatically popular with about half the voters. They will love that shit. It totally aligns with the propaganda they’ve been happily gorging on for decades too. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/103 "2023-11-01T18:33:10Z")
Definitely cause for concern: [https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/31/opinions/mike-johnson-gop-extreme-right-agenda-avlon/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/31/opinions/mike-johnson-gop-extreme-right-agenda-avlon/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/104 "2023-11-02T04:58:47Z")
Thomas Edsall in today’s NYT discusses Mike Johnson’s Christian Nationalism, and the rise of white Evangelicalism that it reflects. Gifted article. > **[Opinion | ‘The Embodiment of White Christian Nationalism in a Tailored Suit’](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/01/opinion/mike-johnson-christian-nationalism-speaker.html?unlocked_article_code=1.7Uw.rlQz.D2r155VTEyIW&smid=url-share)** > > Mike Johnson’s ascension reflects the strength of white evangelical voters’ influence on the House Republican caucus. Ryan Burge: “His views are far out of step with the average American and even with a significant number of Republicans. Yet, he was chosen as speaker.” ```auto Republican Electorate: 1970s 2010s Mainline Protestants 46% 17% Evangelical Protestants 24% 38% Catholics 19% 25% Mainline Protestants plus Catholics 65% 42% ``` For more on Christian Nationalism, Edsall points us to the PPRI (Public Religion Research Institute) article, “A Christian Nation? Understanding the Threat of Christian Nationalism to American Democracy and Culture” [PRRI](https://www.prri.org/research/a-christian-nation-understanding-the-threat-of-christian-nationalism-to-american-democracy-and-culture/) They ask 5 questions, then sort Americans according to their answers: it’s a Pew-style exercise. Questions follow: - The U.S. government should declare America a Christian nation. - U.S. laws should be based on Christian values. - If the U.S. moves away from our Christian foundations, we will not have a country anymore. - Being Christian is an important part of being truly American. - God has called Christians to exercise dominion over all areas of American society. Ok, here’s the demographic breakdown of the US: - Christian Nationalist Adherents: 10% of Americans: Agree with all 5 - Christian Nationalist Sympathizers: Agree, but less likely to say they completely agree. 19%. (10+19=29) - Christian Nationalist Skeptics: Disagree, but less likely to completely disagree 39% - Christian Nationalist Rejectors: Completely disagree: 29%. (39+29=68) Studies show that 68 is greater than 29. Among Republicans 54% were in the top 2 groups - adherents (21%) or sympathizers (33%). I round to 50-50. Among Democrats, 15% were in the top 2 groups. Among Christian Nationalist Adherents, 81 percent agreed that, “Immigrants are invading our country and replacing our cultural and ethnic background". Hijack! [Parable of the Good Samaritan - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Good_Samaritan) Personally, I’m not exactly panicking, and I think Mike Johnson’s leadership will be shaped by his caucus more than visa-versa. Because that’s the way things have worked in the past. Probability? Meh, 75%? Too early to be certain. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/105 "2023-11-02T05:30:09Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Personally, I’m not exactly panicking, and I think Mike Johnson’s leadership will be shaped by his caucus more than visa-versa. I think your probably right, but unfortunately his election tells us a great deal about his caucus. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/106 "2023-11-02T06:03:52Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > “His views are far out of step with the average American and even with a significant number of Republicans. Yet, he was chosen as speaker.” Fatigue. They finally figured they had to vote for _somebody._ ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/107 "2023-11-02T06:44:23Z")
Or maybe they got what they wanted all along. This guy stinks almost as much as George Santos, so obviously, they love him. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/108 "2023-11-02T13:46:01Z")
Now that he’s Speaker, Johnson is predictably getting more scrutiny than he did as an unheralded Congressman from Louisianna. And one of the things raising questions is his personal finances. Namely, in his required financial reporting, he has never reported having a bank account under his or his wife’s name. In fact, on his latest filing he doesn’t report having any financial assets at all, even though his House salary alone puts him in the top 12% of American earners and he had years of practice as an attorney prior to assuming electoral office. Curious. > **[Does New Speaker of the House Mike Johnson Have a Bank Account?](https://www.thedailybeast.com/does-new-speaker-of-the-house-mike-johnson-have-a-bank-account)** > > Speaker Mike Johnson has never listed a bank account on his financial disclosure. In fact, on his newest disclosure he doesn’t list a single asset at all. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/109 "2023-11-02T14:01:35Z")
Maybe he gives all his money to “gay conversion” clinics and abortion bombers. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/110 "2023-11-02T14:16:33Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > But of course, he is kinda wrong about the Bible- Here’s what he’s most wrong about the Bible along with the rest of the Freedumbs It’s not the supreme law of the land, the Constitution is. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/111 "2023-11-02T17:10:41Z")
It says so right there in it! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/112 "2023-11-02T18:00:14Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Here’s what he’s most wrong about the Bible along with the rest of the Freedumbs > It’s not the supreme law of the land, the Constitution is. Absolutely. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/113 "2023-11-02T20:43:45Z")
For now. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/114 "2023-11-02T22:16:59Z")
Looks like house Republicans passed the “Up Isreal/Down IRS” bill with the help of some Democrats. I’d like to know which Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/115 "2023-11-02T23:10:17Z")
Democrats voting for the bill were Reps. Angie Craig (Minn.), Donald G. Davis (N.C.), Lois Frankel (Fla.), Jared Golden (Maine), Josh Gottheimer (N.J.), Greg Landsman (Ohio), Jared Moskowitz (Fla.), Darren Soto (Fla.), Haley Stevens (Mich.), Juan Vargas (Calif.), Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Fla.) and Frederica S. Wilson (Fla.). Republican Reps. Thomas Massie (Ky.) and Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.) voted against. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/116 "2023-11-02T23:15:53Z")
Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/117 "2023-11-02T23:20:15Z")
Democrats: I wish Republicans would stop their insane counterproductivity. Republicans: Bro, stop helping us then. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/118 "2023-11-02T23:25:27Z")
The Florida Ds who voted for it are all in heavily Jewish districts. That topic gets pretty single-issue down here. Even if whatever bill they just voted up wasn’t everything Israel wanted or could use, it was something. They can vote for something bigger & better next time. But they must always say “yes.” I explicitly make no comment on whether this is good or bad for US policy or US interests. I merely say that it’s so. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/119 "2023-11-02T23:30:06Z")
The politics in this country are so pathetic, and antithetical to that which is good and just, that I’d just like to give the whole thing up, and let the moronic fucking electorate have their way. When Democrats are voting for this ridiculous bullshit, the whole thing is thoroughly and irredeemably fucked. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2023, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097/120 "2023-11-02T23:34:46Z")
Bring on president trump 2.0. I don’t give a fuck. The Democratic spineless wonders had better be there at the inauguration fawning over him Pence-style. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-import-of-mike-johnsons-win-as-speaker-of-the-house/992097.md?page=7)