# What is the most arrogant political philosophy of all? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 9, 2017, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-arrogant-political-philosophy-of-all/776706 "2017-01-09T07:40:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-arrogant-political-philosophy-of-all/776706/121 "2017-01-19T03:48:11Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > It’s the former, so I guess Conservatism and Progressivism don’t exist either then. You keep throwing me these softballs. Thanks. Conservatism and progressivism don’t exist _as distinct political philosophies_. They are both forms of majoritarianism. Republicans and Democrats have their differences but they agree on the basic structure. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-arrogant-political-philosophy-of-all/776706/122 "2017-01-19T04:40:53Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > You keep throwing me these softballs. Thanks. > > Conservatism and progressivism don’t exist _as distinct political philosophies_. They are both forms of majoritarianism. Republicans and Democrats have their differences but they agree on the basic structure. Let’s look at the very first sentence in the OP: > [@OP](#): > > This could expand to many dimensions, some analytical analysis of the technical claims of different political world views like liberalism, conservatism, libertarianism… Emphasis added. Three strikes. You’re out. It would appear you have an issue with the OP. I suggest you take it up with him/her. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-arrogant-political-philosophy-of-all/776706/123 "2017-01-19T11:57:00Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > A majority of Americans don’t think prayer in school is an act of “establishing religion”. So, the government can do that. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > So who is trying to stop children from praying in school? > [@John\_Mace](#): > > If I wasn’t clear, I meant fully sanctioned, school prayer led by teachers. (Kids can opt out if they want.) Just like it was in the good ol’ days. Haven’t seen **LeftHandOfDorkness** in this thread, but I do wonder how happy he would be to have “lead the class in prayer” written into his job description. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-arrogant-political-philosophy-of-all/776706/124 "2017-01-19T13:27:45Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Haven’t seen **LeftHandOfDorkness** in this thread, but I do wonder how happy he would be to have “lead the class in prayer” written into his job description. I don’t. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-arrogant-political-philosophy-of-all/776706/125 "2017-01-19T14:47:59Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Just to be clear, you think you are free to walk across any field in the US? Any field in the UK, Germany or China? Hint: You’re not. > > None of those countries is Libertarian. Cite? That is widely variable from one country to another, and even from one US state to another, where there is wide variation in trespassing laws. Texas and Florida have draconian trespassing laws, where it is a serious criminal offense to do what is widely tolerated in some other states. In China, I have often walked leisurely in the countryside without so much has rolled eyes from people I encountered along the way, who were either working the firlds, or simply passing through. When I lived in a rural house in Bolivia, strangers regularly climbed over my fences to take shortcuts cross country. The mere fact that property belongs to somebody else is not considered justification to force people who walk many miles every day to make long and circuitous detours. Those cultures evolved with a sense of civility, in which people doing no harm are deemed harmless until proved otherwise. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-arrogant-political-philosophy-of-all/776706.md?page=6)