# What is the most complicated piece of music written, for multiple instruments, which could be played by the composer?

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Gonna say for purposes of this thread, even if you can sing the soprano portion in your lovely, rich, baritone, that still doesn’t make you a soprano.

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You don’t include voice parts he _used to be_ able to sing when he was 12?&nbsp; 😀

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Here’s a extract of an exquisite choral piece by Bach for double choir (8 parts) and organ:

> **[Komm, Jesu, komm, BWV 229 (extract).mp3](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qh8d9a1xIrWtME_mFmeyBWv2pH71emcN/view?usp=sharing)**
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> Google Drive file.

Two short sections from a larger piece:

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; **Komm, ich will mich dir ergeben** (Come, I will give myself to you)

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; **Du bist der rechte Weg, die Wahrheit und das Leben** (You are the right path, the truth and life)  
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If you can manage to overlook the religious sentiments, it’s a beautiful piece. 🙂

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Todd’s “Hermit of Mink Hollow” is another album where he wrote, arranged, produced, and performed the entire thing by himself.

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_ **The Ever Popular Tortured Artist Effect** _ is another.

ETA: I’m a big fan. 😃

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Gonna say for purposes of this thread, even if you can sing the soprano portion in your lovely, rich, baritone, that still doesn’t make you a soprano.

So we can rule out Mozart singing the “Queen of the Night” aria, accompanied by piano quartet.

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Lol, yes.

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> [@Bootb](#):
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> The Bach family was quite possibly the most overall talented family in history; certainly in the top 3.

> [@jaycat](#):
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> Right up there with the Wiggin family.

Came here to post those two points in that sequence. ::darn! snapping fingers emoji::

Known more as a performer than composer, Niccolo Paganini could just _tear_ though stuff, like his [24 caprices.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8j1x3pTOyo)

Liszt wasn’t too much of a slouch either.

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Yeah, but now we’re getting away from the “for multiple instruments” stipulation.

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Indeed, noted - my two don’t fit the OP.

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The OP appreciates all links Paganini.

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AFAIK, Paganini didn’t play any instruments beside violin (and by extension, viola). He composed duets with guitar and with bassoon, but I haven’t seen evidence that he played either. At any rate, he was no Mozart.

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> [@panache45](#):
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> So he could play piano quartets, the most complicated being the one in E-flat, K 493.

Haven’t really explored his piano quartets, thank you for this - it’s been an enjoyable journey.

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As far as 70’s rockers go, Roy Wood made some pretty complicated music, performed everything himself and played a vast array of instruments, including many from the classical scene: vocals, guitar, bass, drums and keyboards, but also cello, bassoon, flute, clarinet, oboe, French horn, mandolin, bouzouki, recorders, bagpipes and double bass.

I think Roy Wood is the champion in his own class, judging “most complicated” notwithstanding.

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