# What is the most disturbing book you know?

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**Created:** [December 12, 2002, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222 "2002-12-12T07:37:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tanaqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Tanaqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaqui)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/41 "2002-12-12T20:05:58Z")

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I don’t read much disturbing stuff except when it comes on me unawares, so this is pretty mild. It still freaks me out majorly though, literally making me wince every time I think of it. It’s from _Look to Windward_ by Ian Banks (I _think_…)

Basically, one of the characters in the book collects torture devices. A particular one is described. It is used to destroy eyes. I don’t really want to describe it anymore than that. ☹ It still creeps me the hell out.

The description is far more involved in the actual book.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/42 "2002-12-12T20:06:32Z")

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Yes Yes to Painted Bird (the bottle especially) and A.M. Homes(the bathtub with Ma, especially).

I also read Mo Hayden’s “Birdman” and “The Treatment” on a plane. Thriller-weird, but good.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/43 "2002-12-12T20:38:46Z")

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I’ve read a lot of these books, and I agree that most of them are fairly disturbing. However, much more disturbing than The Crying of Lot 49, Wicked, Gerald’s Game, The Handmaid’s Tale, Weaveworld, and The Great and Secret Show, is a book called **Lost** by [Gary Devon](http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=55HR7X5KRZ&isbn=0816142777).

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/44 "2002-12-12T20:54:20Z")

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_Pet Semetary_\*, Stephen King. I think King himself acknowledges that this is his creepiest book ever and his wife was really disturbed by it.

Same with _Apt Pupil_, although it wasn’t quite as icky.

_Lasher_ by Anne Rice. The whole story about grown teenagers who exist wholely on breast milk and there’s something psycho-sexual about it, and the affair the husband has with a thirteen year old girl who still wears ribbons in her hair, it wasn’t so much disturbing as it just got really creepy and stupid and fucked up.

I don’t remember the name, (something whispers, or visions) by it was by Dean Koontz. It was about a killer and this girl who was horribly molested when she was really little-she was psychic and telekinetic. Well, the killer called himself a vampire and said he liked to drink women’s menstrual blood…oh GOD, it was bad!

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/45 "2002-12-12T21:07:53Z")

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> Firefly, Piers Anthony

Holy crap. This was the first thing that sprang to mind when I saw your thread subject.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/46 "2002-12-12T21:11:51Z")

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Susan Black Dahlia by James Ellroy is even more disturbing if you know that he based much of the Dahlia character on his own mother and her murder (actually using her autopsy report as source material).

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/47 "2002-12-12T21:57:36Z")

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Odd…at keast to me

I was looking at these books in Amazon as “Related Books” seem to be a good way to find another title/author. As I went to Painted Bird, I noticed this:

“Customers who wear clothes also shop for:  
Clean Underwear from Amazon’s Target Store”

with a link to underwear and socks. Would I shop for dirty underwear? The other links were

“Ladybug Rain Boots from Amazon’s Nordstrom Store  
Arm Warmers from Amazon’s Urban Outfitters Store  
Cheetah Print Slippers from Amazon’s Old Navy Store”

Great metaphor for a novel probing the desensitized child victim of severe oppression, I think. Especially the Ladybug Rain boots…

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/48 "2002-12-12T22:03:30Z")

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I’ll second _American Psycho_, _Cruddy_ (especially with the drawings, eek!) and _The End of Alice_.

Also, I’d add _Survivor_ by Chuck Palahnuik and _And the Ass Saw the Angel_ by Nick Cave. Both books were brilliant and I can’t recommend them enough, but both were so dark and disturbing that they put me in a horrible mood until I finished them.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/49 "2002-12-12T22:14:41Z")

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There was a book called “Girl in the Box” by someone who’s name I can’t remember, a woman whose first name began with “O,” maybe. Anyway, the girl in the book is kidnapped and shut in a dark basement with only a jar of water and some bread. She has a typewriter with her, for some reason, and the whole book is told through the letters she touch types in the dark. So disturbing, because at the end, she writes about how she accidently broke the jar of water. Then there’s no more letters. Not even a epilouge. It just ends.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/50 "2002-12-12T22:18:24Z")

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Shoppers who bought The Naked Lunch also bought On the Road, by Jack Kerouac and a 40 bag of primo smak

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/51 "2002-12-12T22:34:44Z")

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Of the books that have been listed, which ones are really page turners?

Although we’ve grown used to the story of **Helter Skelter** now and others similar murders, when I read that book in the seventies, it was sickening and really creepy. When I read at night before sleeping, I would get out of bed and place the book on the other side of the room. I didn’t want that book near me during the night. (And I am not prone to squeamishness.)

The most stunning book in its horror was my introduction to the Holocaust in the early sixties – **I Cannot Forgive**. I had been shielded from knowledge of these atrocities until then.

Both of these are non-fiction.

The novel **Red Dragon** was no picnic either.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/52 "2002-12-12T22:42:44Z")

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_Hitler’s Willing Executioners_

Its one thing to think about, oh, a few thousand soldiers and police commiting the atrocities of the holocaust. You can say, they were abnormal. Insane. Pathological.

It’s quite another to read that a large fraction - maybe even a majority - of the **ordinary, normal** people knew what was going on - and not only didn’t mind, but approved of it… participated in it.

If I had ever thought “that can’t happen **here** ”, that book would have changed my mind.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/53 "2002-12-12T22:45:18Z")

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Exquisite Corpse - Poppy Z Brite  
American Psycho - already mentioned  
The Rape of Nanking - Iris Chiang  
There is one i forget the name of but it was about the Twins of Aushwietz it was told by survivors and told the tales of all the experiments Mengele subjected them to. It may have been called “The twins of Aushwietz”

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/54 "2002-12-12T22:50:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by welby \*  
> \*\*_Geek Love_ by Catherine Dunne.
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> Basically the story of a carnival family who’s mom and dad decide to breed thier own freak show.
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> Disturbing on so many levels. \*\*

This gets another vote from me. A seriously warped book.

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/55 "2002-12-12T23:12:37Z")

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Not so much scary, but pretty disturbing is the _Wasp Factory_ by Iain Banks. And Grunts is one of my favourite books ever. “we’re all a little worried about Pink Squad…” Heh. 😃

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**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/56 "2002-12-12T23:19:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BurnMeUp \*  
> \*\*Exquisite Corpse - Poppy Z Brite  
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I turned this one in to a paperback book exchange program with a post-it note stuck to the first page that said something to the effect of “Warning: This book is not for the easily disturbed or disgusted. Contains scenes of extreme violence.” Of course, if _I_ found a book with a similar warning, it would probably just encourage me to read it.🙂

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/57 "2002-12-13T01:27:08Z")

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I am already disturbed at reading the descriptions, and I’ve never looked at any of these books.

Man, I thought the Fountainhead’s sex scenes were bizzare.

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Maybe it was because I was a freshman in high school when I read it, but _In Cold Blood_ by Truman Capote practically gave me nightmares - particularly the vivid descriptions of the executions.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/59 "2002-12-13T02:24:39Z")

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“The Eleventh Plague”, I can’t remember the author. The book’s about this scientist who uses the plagues of Egypt to get back at people. You’ll never eat undercooked pork again.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-disturbing-book-you-know/142222/60 "2002-12-13T03:06:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by sj2 \*  
> \*\*Odd…at keast to me
> 
> I was looking at these books in Amazon as “Related Books” seem to be a good way to find another title/author. As I went to Painted Bird, I noticed this:
> 
> “Customers who wear clothes also shop for:  
> Clean Underwear from Amazon’s Target Store”
> 
> with a link to underwear and socks. Would I shop for dirty underwear? The other links were
> 
> “Ladybug Rain Boots from Amazon’s Nordstrom Store  
> Arm Warmers from Amazon’s Urban Outfitters Store  
> Cheetah Print Slippers from Amazon’s Old Navy Store” \*\*

Actually, you’ll find these same links for many books. Part of a new marketing strategy by Amazon, but not based on any real science.

My scary books?

Non-fiction: “No Bad Dogs” by Barbara Woodhouse. She was pretty casual about advocating the use of certain techniques/collars. It’s one of the three books I’ve thrown away in my life.

“In the Belly of the Beast” by ?? It’s a very graphic account of a New Mexico prison riot. It was required reading for some criminology course I took and 1/2 of the class didn’t get past the part with blowtorches and snitches. It made ME queasy and I read forensic pathology books for fun.

Fiction:

“The Sheep Look Up” by John Brunner. Sci-fi (sort of) set about 15 minutes into the future. It’s scary because it’s real (pandemics, corporate greed, etc).

I read most Jerry Kozinski’s stuff and Naked Lunch between 8th grade and my freshman year in high school. A little bit too much amperage.

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