# What is the most masculine idea of all-time? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 27, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041 "2021-05-27T14:33:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/21 "2021-05-28T01:27:08Z")
I have been surprised by the number of attractive and educated women I have known who told me that they dreamt of being “James Bond girls”. Guess I need to invest in cooler cars and offbeat gadgets. Wouldn’t it be better, if insisting on outdated tropes, to be a Charlie’s Angel? Yes, there is the patriarchy. But cool costume. Striking poses. Better chance of survival. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/22 "2021-05-28T01:51:41Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > … to be a Charlie’s Angel? Yes, there is the patriarchy. But cool costume. Striking poses. Better chance of survival. Underlining mine. Maybe, maybe not. See here for a revelation: > [@The origin of the Charlie's Angels pose](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-origin-of-the-charlies-angels-pose/942286): > > I’m having a bit of a Berenstein Bears moment. Everyone knows the famous Charlie’s Angels three-person pose. One in the middle, standing straight and facing forward, hands in an action pose (typically holding a gun, extended either straight out or up). The two flanking people face away from the center person, their action-pose hands reaching out to the sides. It’s obligatory for the various remakes and reboots to pay homage: [[image] ](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/15/07/425BD40100000578-0-Independent_Women_The_dynamic_duo_starred_alongside_Lucy_Liu_in_-m-54_1500100107162.jpg)[[…](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/voYLots_ZOg/maxresdefault.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/23 "2021-05-28T01:53:48Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > The plot was that Our Hero has been biologically engineered to be superhumanly potent and is sent to neutralize the threat from a planet of amazons. Skipping to the end he becomes the immortal God-Emperor of the planet surrounded by his adoring harem. “Death by snu-snu!” ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/24 "2021-05-28T03:11:31Z")
To me monster trucks just scream lack of masculinity. If you want a big truck, get a big truck. Not some little truck you put big wheels on. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/26 "2021-05-28T04:46:07Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > I have been surprised by the number of attractive and educated women I have known who told me that they dreamt of being “James Bond girls”. Guess I need to invest in cooler cars and offbeat gadgets. But are they saying they would like to be the fictional characters that are Bond girls, or are they saying they would like to be the model/actresses that play Bond girls? The latter makes one an “It Girl” for a brief but fashionable moment and can be parlayed into a career. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/27 "2021-05-28T04:58:03Z")
Using [80 pounds of tannerite at a gender reveal party](https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/a-nh-gender-reveal-with-80-pounds-of-explosives-heres-everything-you-need-to-know/2362761/), which [cracked the foundations](https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/a-huge-explosion-cracked-house-foundations-in-new-hampshire-an-extreme-gender-reveal-party-was-to-blame/) of at least two neighboring houses, to celebrate the fact that you [impregnated your wife with a son](https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/god-awful-blast-that-rocked-nh-towns-was-gender-reveal-explosives/2361205/). ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/28 "2021-05-28T05:20:16Z")
A flag pole. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/29 "2021-05-28T05:46:09Z")
The Castro District in San Francisco. Seriously. There’s a hardware/toy store no woman would be interested in. No women’s clothing, shoe, or jewelry stores. And bars! Lots and lots of bars ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/30 "2021-05-28T08:51:05Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > I’ll raise you James Bond. Handsome, dynamic, witty, sophisticated, gets laid all the time and has a license to kill. Women want to be with him, men want to BE him. The thing about Bond is that he’s a fashion queen who probably spends more on his hair than I do on food. Badass? Undoubtedly. Masculine? Arguably. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/31 "2021-05-28T13:47:52Z")
I’m guessing you’ve never actually been to Castro Street? There’s a ton of stores on Castro Street that sell women’s clothing, shoes, and jewelry. Often to women. The idea that you won’t find any women at Cliff’s is similarly ridiculous. It’s literally owned by two women. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/32 "2021-05-28T13:49:48Z")
I’ve been there a couple times, ten years ago, but just the area around the Castro Theater, and that was my observation. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/33 "2021-05-28T14:09:17Z")
The immediate next door neighbor to the Castro theater is a nail salon, and has been since 2004. Sorry, I don’t mean to give you a hard time, I just kind of find it hilarious that you think the place in the US most closely associated with gay culture wouldn’t have a _ton_ of shops that sell women’s clothing and accessories in it. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/34 "2021-05-28T17:18:01Z")
Bond girls tend to be smart, stylish, sexy and strong. Some have skills. I do not know if that makes up for having a corny name. But in consideration the women are not mere props and I assume they had the former things in mind. The women who said they had these aspirations were often professionally successful. If they had dreams of being an actress they did not tell me. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/35 "2021-05-28T18:13:37Z")
Chainsaw juggling. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ti3MkTt5qv4/hqdefault.jpg "Mad Chad Taylor World Record Chainsaw Juggling") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti3MkTt5qv4) ---
**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/36 "2021-05-28T18:33:44Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Writing your name in the snow? Reminds me of a joke: The President looks out a window in the White House and sees written in the snow, “FUCK NIXON”. He orders the Secret Service to investigate. They report back in a few hours and remark, “We have good news and bad news. It’s Kissinger’s piss all right. But it’s Pat’s handwriting.” ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/37 "2021-05-28T18:34:18Z")
The truly offensive amount of time, talent and money poured into the development of Viagra. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Sponge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dark_sponge/32/121_2.png) [@Dark\_Sponge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Sponge)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/38 "2021-05-28T18:42:14Z")
Wasn’t it originally intended to be a blood pressure medication? Am I misremembering that? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/39 "2021-05-28T18:42:22Z")
I could be wrong, but I thought Viagra was being tested for blood pressure or similar alternate use and a “side effect” was discovered. I don’t disagree with you about the marketing aspect. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/40 "2021-05-28T18:51:38Z")
> [@Dark\_Sponge](#): > > Wasn’t it originally intended to be a blood pressure medication? It was. Sildenafil. And men who had a prescription noticed a particular side effect. > [@elbows](#): > > The truly offensive amount of time, talent and money poured into the development of Viagra. Also, what’s so offensive about a medication that solves a problem for a lot of people? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041/41 "2021-05-29T00:48:06Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > Also, what’s so offensive about a medication that solves a problem for a lot of people? Exactly. It’s a big quality of life issue that may not sound like much to **elbows** , but it means a lot to many people (and their partners). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-masculine-idea-of-all-time/943041.md?page=3)