# What is the most severe, irrevocable change you plan to make in your life in the next four years due to politics?

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**Created:** [November 9, 2024, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-severe-irrevocable-change-you-plan-to-make-in-your-life-in-the-next-four-years-due-to-politics/1009973 "2024-11-09T05:10:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Whether we go depends on how the new government behaves.

I would say it probably even more so depends on which country you want to move to. Most Americans do not realize that many other country’s immigration laws are even more restrictive than the US’s.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
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I can’t think of one severe let alone irrevocable change I’m going to make. My wife wants to move within the state but that has nothing to do with politics.

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**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-severe-irrevocable-change-you-plan-to-make-in-your-life-in-the-next-four-years-due-to-politics/1009973/43 "2024-11-12T23:17:34Z")

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But remember what David Crosby said:  
Almost cut my hair  
It happened just the other day  
It’s gettin’ kinda long  
I coulda said it was in my way  
But I didn’t and I wonder why  
I feel like letting my freak flag fly  
Yes, I feel like I owe it to someone

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**Author:** ![Jaycat.again](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat.again/32/11525_2.png) [@Jaycat.again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaycat.again)\
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He wasn’t exactly William Butler Yeats, was he?

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**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-severe-irrevocable-change-you-plan-to-make-in-your-life-in-the-next-four-years-due-to-politics/1009973/45 "2024-11-13T00:42:20Z")

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No, he was much cooler.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-severe-irrevocable-change-you-plan-to-make-in-your-life-in-the-next-four-years-due-to-politics/1009973/46 "2024-11-13T00:45:04Z")

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I’m 27 years sober. I plan to start drinking heavily. I do not want to die sober.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-severe-irrevocable-change-you-plan-to-make-in-your-life-in-the-next-four-years-due-to-politics/1009973/47 "2024-11-13T01:14:24Z")

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Okay, this is the kind of thing I was wondering about. (If you were never an alcoholic and never had an unhealthy relationship with alcohol, as vaguely implied by your post, then you are more equipped to ignore the following paragraph.)

I really, _really_ don’t recommend subjecting yourself to that, **Fear\_Itself**. I know you probably feel sure, and granted, Trump could drive anyone to drink, please don’t relapse deliberately.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-severe-irrevocable-change-you-plan-to-make-in-your-life-in-the-next-four-years-due-to-politics/1009973/48 "2024-11-13T01:23:18Z")

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I quit drinking when I was 43. I spilled more booze than most people drink in a lifetime.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
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I’m in the least affected demographic of whatever Trump is going to do, so it would be a little hysterical for me to do anything irrevocable. And if the US economy tanks, most places in the world will suffer even worse. Same with the global security situation. The reality is, I’m staying here and fighting, whatever that means (I do not know exactly what that means at this time).

Don’t get me wrong, I would _like_ to chuck my citizenship and leave the country. I’m tired of being American, tired of being around them, embarrassed to be called one. But I doubt that American citizenship will ever stop being the most secure, convenient, and financially lucrative type of citizenship that I’m ever likely to get. So America it is.

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I’m 27 years sober. I plan to start drinking heavily.

Do NOT give them the satisfaction, if you are indeed serious. But I certainly understand the sentiment!

I’ve wanted to live in British Columbia since the first time I visited 40+ years ago. Now that I’m ready to retire, they surely won’t want me. But that would be my ideal spot.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
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I got a DUI in 1997, so I am _persona non grata_ in Canada. I can’t think of another country I would even consider moving to, so I will just suffer whatever comes. But I’m old, maybe I’ll die before they get around to killing me.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
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We’re retired and have fixed incomes. We assume there will be an economic crunch.

We will plant vegetables rather than flowers, though we had decided not to garden as extensively as we used to. We will not travel much and probably will cancel two scheduled trips. We probably won’t take on the expense of the new pets we were going to get in January. We will wear hats and flannel shirts in the house and keep the heat low. We won’t make scheduled house improvements like reflooring, getting a freezer, or installing better storage for the garage. We won’t get a safer car and I’ll continue to drive my 2008 compact. I will not replace my old phone.

Each of us also has some “personal” money saved up that we may have to use for bills rather than individual pursuits.

Fortunately, we just had our wills rewritten to protect our assets even if our marriage is invalidated.

These are not irrevocable, but they and other choices, such as where we buy our food, the extent to which we can engage in charitable giving, and medical decisions, affect our lives and move us from responsible spending to austerity.

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You might want to buy some stuff before the likely inflation.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
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A good idea, but we’re not budgeted for the bigger items at this point in the year and can’t shift that.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-severe-irrevocable-change-you-plan-to-make-in-your-life-in-the-next-four-years-due-to-politics/1009973/55 "2024-11-13T20:18:22Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> Most Americans do not realize that many other country’s immigration laws are even more restrictive than the US’s.

Unless you have a lot of money in which case some countries will let you buy your way in.

- [After Trump’s Win, Wealthy Americans Rush to Buy ‘Golden Visas’](https://www.barrons.com/articles/trump-musk-rto-government-efficiency-fbf50ace)

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I got a DUI in 1997, so I am _persona non grata_ in Canada.

Canada’s a special place, ain’t it? 27 years ago. Probably fell off your record here 20 years ago. Probably couldn’t even get anything showing it ever even happened. 27 years ago.

But those smug A-Holes won’t even let you drive across their crappy roads for 3 days to get to Alaska for a camping trip.

> [@Kropotkin](#):
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> But I didn’t and I wonder why  
> I feel like letting my freak flag fly  
> Yes, I feel like I owe it to someone

Many years ago, I promised my Mom I wouldn’t cut my hair as long as she lived. She relieved me of my obligation a couple years ago, but haven’t gotten around doing anything about it. I’m kinda lazy that way.

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I’m probably not going to set foot very far outside of Maryland or DC until at least 2027.

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**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\
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FYI, kid, you can rehabilitate yourself. There are classes you take to be allowed in to Canada again. But you still can’t move there unless they lift the moratorium in '27…

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
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Yes, I’ve looked into rehabilitation. You have to send them $850 with your application, plus all the court paperwork from your case, plus extensive personal references. If your application is declined, your $850 is NOT refundable.

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