# What is the most Ubiquitous chain in the US? the World?

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**Created:** [December 26, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-ubiquitous-chain-in-the-us-the-world/385669 "2006-12-26T22:07:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-ubiquitous-chain-in-the-us-the-world/385669/1 "2006-12-26T22:07:56Z")

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In the US I gotta think it is between 7-11 and Starbuck’s with the former being my guess. In the world I am guessing maybe McDonald’s?

ANybody got the hard cold facts?

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-ubiquitous-chain-in-the-us-the-world/385669/2 "2006-12-26T22:09:26Z")

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I’d say McDonalds for both. I don’t see nearly as many 711’s or Starbucks.

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Inside the US, it’s Subway, believe or it not. They haven’t caught up to McDonald’s worldwide yet.

> **[On a roll](https://www.theguardian.com/news/2005/jul/18/food.britishidentity)**
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> They have six-inch and foot-long versions, myriad fillings and sauces that defy description. Now Britons have so taken to Subway sandwiches that the franchise is challenging McDonald's as the UK's No1 fast-food outlet. Lucy Mangan investigates a...

> [@](#):
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> Subway is already the biggest fast food chain in the US and is becoming ever more popular in the UK.

Dated 2005. Other sources seem to back up the claim.

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[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus]  
In the US I gotta think it is between 7-11 and Starbuck’s with the former being my guess. In the world I am guessing maybe McDonald’s?

ANybody got the hard cold facts?  
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Starbucks? I highly doubt it. Where I live (in Chicago proper, no less), there are 6 Starbucks within 5 miles. There are 34 McDonald’s in the same range.

[For some McDonald’s numbers](http://mcd.mobular.net/mcd/90/8/26/):  
There are 31,886 restaurants in the world in 2005. I can’t find more current numbers right now, but in 1998 there were [over 12,000](http://freespace.virgin.net/john.cletheroe/usa_can/odds/index.htm) McDonald’s in the US.

[Starbuck’s has 7,960 stores in the US as of May 2006.](http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2006-05-18-starbucks-usat_x.htm) And another 3,275 outside the US.

Ah, this article actually compares McD’s and Starbucks and gives the figures of 13,700 for local stores.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-ubiquitous-chain-in-the-us-the-world/385669/5 "2006-12-26T22:29:57Z")

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[answer.com](http://answer.com) says that Subway overtook McDonald’s in the US in 2001.

Subway’s site claims “26879 Restaurants In 86 Countries”. McDonald’s has something in the vicinity of 30,000.

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[QUOTE=yabob]  
Inside the US, it’s Subway, believe or it not. They haven’t caught up to McDonald’s worldwide yet.

> **[On a roll](https://www.theguardian.com/news/2005/jul/18/food.britishidentity)**
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> They have six-inch and foot-long versions, myriad fillings and sauces that defy description. Now Britons have so taken to Subway sandwiches that the franchise is challenging McDonald's as the UK's No1 fast-food outlet. Lucy Mangan investigates a...

Dated 2005. Other sources seem to back up the claim.  
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Holy crap. Would never have guess. According to [the company web site](http://www.subway.com/subwayroot/Applications/Reports/CountryCount.aspx), they have 20,496 restaurants in the US. I guess if you think about it, it makes sense. It doesn’t take nearly as much to set up shop with a Subway as with a McDonald’s.

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[QUOTE=pulykamell]  
Starbucks? I highly doubt it. Where I live (in Chicago proper, no less), there are 6 Starbucks within 5 miles. There are 34 McDonald’s in the same range.

[For some McDonald’s numbers](http://mcd.mobular.net/mcd/90/8/26/):  
There are 31,886 restaurants in the world in 2005. I can’t find more current numbers right now, but in 1998 there were [over 12,000](http://freespace.virgin.net/john.cletheroe/usa_can/odds/index.htm) McDonald’s in the US.

[Starbuck’s has 7,960 stores in the US as of May 2006.](http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2006-05-18-starbucks-usat_x.htm) And another 3,275 outside the US.

Ah, this article actually compares McD’s and Starbucks and gives the figures of 13,700 for local stores.  
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A quick look at the Starbuck’s wikipedia page showed me how far off I was on that. But I still think 7-11 might be more numerous in the US than McDonald’s.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-ubiquitous-chain-in-the-us-the-world/385669/8 "2006-12-26T22:38:34Z")

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[QUOTE=pulykamell]  
Holy crap. Would never have guess. According to [the company web site](http://www.subway.com/subwayroot/Applications/Reports/CountryCount.aspx), they have 20,496 restaurants in the US. I guess if you think about it, it makes sense. It doesn’t take nearly as much to set up shop with a Subway as with a McDonald’s.  
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Yeah, surprised me, too. But you can stick a Subway in a fairly small retail space and start flogging sangwidges. I wonder how they compare on square footage or number of customers served.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2006, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-ubiquitous-chain-in-the-us-the-world/385669/9 "2006-12-26T22:42:45Z")

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I just checked on Yahoo! Yellow Pages and there are 30 McDonald’s 5 miles or closer to my house, 30 Seven-elevens and 44 Subways.

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I’m 41 miles from the nearest 7-11, but only about a mile from the nearest McDonald’s and Subway. The chain has almost no presence in upstate NY, whereas the other chains can be found in any large town.

According to 7-11, they have 7,100 stores in North America, with a total of 31,000 worldwide.

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According to the 7-11 [company website](http://www.7-eleven.com/newsroom/companyprofile.asp), they have “more than 31,000” worldwide. There’s only 7100 in North America. They seem to have a pretty high density in Singapore and Japan. They’re almost certainly the biggest store in those countries.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2006, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-ubiquitous-chain-in-the-us-the-world/385669/12 "2006-12-27T00:37:51Z")

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Closest to home != closest to where you want to have lunch.

McDonalds != Starbucks

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Near Cleveland, there were maybe 4 7-11s within a half hour of me. In Vegas, there’s on one every corner. Almost every convenience store is a 7-11. There are probably 50+ within a few miles of me.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2006, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-ubiquitous-chain-in-the-us-the-world/385669/14 "2006-12-27T01:15:37Z")

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[QUOTE=pulykamell]  
Holy crap. Would never have guess. According to [the company web site](http://www.subway.com/subwayroot/Applications/Reports/CountryCount.aspx), they have 20,496 restaurants in the US. I guess if you think about it, it makes sense. It doesn’t take nearly as much to set up shop with a Subway as with a McDonald’s.  
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From someone who considered it: Subway is the cheapest major food franchise if you are looking to start one from zero.

As for Starbuck, it seems that 99.76% of them are in California. Hence the joke about a Starbucks opening in the restrooms of another Starbucks. 😉

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2006, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-ubiquitous-chain-in-the-us-the-world/385669/15 "2006-12-27T01:41:32Z")

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Can we include Canada in the search? In my time there, I can’t imagine seeing any store/restaurant in any country that’s more prevalent than Tim Horton’s is in southern Ontario.

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[QUOTE=Balthisar]  
Can we include Canada in the search? In my time there, I can’t imagine seeing any store/restaurant in any country that’s more prevalent than Tim Horton’s is in southern Ontario.  
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Jews have Bar Mitzvahs and Bas Mitzvahs. Canadians give their kids a Tim Horton’s.

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Within 5 miles of my house:

McDonalds: 10  
Burger King: “The type initializer for BK.Mapping.Framework.MapQuestUtil threw an exception”  
Wendy’s: 7  
Starbucks: 12  
7-Eleven: 3  
Subway: 9  
Quizno’s Subs: 3

Teh winnar: **Starbucks**

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[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus]  
In the US I gotta think it is between 7-11 and Starbuck’s with the former being my guess.  
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I gotta say, this was very surprising to read. I don’t remember the last time I saw a real-live 7-11. They occasionally show up in the movies or something, but otherwise I would have assumed they’d gone completely out of business. I live in rural Ohio, and used to live in Indianapolis.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2006, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-ubiquitous-chain-in-the-us-the-world/385669/19 "2006-12-27T03:38:29Z")

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[QUOTE=StuffLikeThatThere]  
I gotta say, this was very surprising to read. I don’t remember the last time I saw a real-live 7-11. They occasionally show up in the movies or something, but otherwise I would have assumed they’d gone completely out of business. I live in rural Ohio, and used to live in Indianapolis.  
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Just because you don’t like getting shot while buying insane amounts of sugary liquids doesn’t mean they don’t exist, you know?

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Slurpees are worth taking a round in a non-vital area.

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