# What is the most unusual thing about the American diet to people of other nationalities?

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**Created:** [February 15, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-unusual-thing-about-the-american-diet-to-people-of-other-nationalities/612980 "2012-02-15T23:44:42Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-unusual-thing-about-the-american-diet-to-people-of-other-nationalities/612980/281 "2012-02-18T16:13:46Z")

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> [@Hello\_Again](#):
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> **gracer** I am glad you are enjoying our national pain. 😃 Should you need to waste 40 or 50 hours of your life, may I suggest [The Gallery of Regrettable Food](http://www.lileks.com/institute/gallery/index.html). I’m certain Britain endured food traditions just as awful in their own way – I’m told People of a Certain Age thought SPAM was pretty good – but it seems they are far less thoroughly documented. 😃 BTW, I am somewhat of a collector of the type of recipe booklets profiled in the Gallery. Whenever I trot them out people laugh until they can’t breathe, for realisies.

Well, Britain has trifle for one thing, which is just plain weird stuff. I loved the idea that it was like something kids would come up with. You could almost add a cup of sand. And SPAM of course…

People in the Netherlands get freaked out by jelly (Jell-O). They don’t have anything like that, so it them it’s like alien food. My mum used to serve it at birthday parties when we were kids, but stopped doing it because the other kids wouldn’t go near it.

And as has been mentioned, take aways serve very greasy disgusting mush. My grandmother laughs at the time she thought she would take me for fish and chips when I was little and I announced that I knew what fish looked like and I knew what chips looked like and that what was on my plate was neither.

Plenty of weird everywhere I think. But the weird you didn’t know yet is always funnier. 😃

ETA: The gallery is amazing, thanks!! Also, I typed “EAT” three times before it came out as “ETA”

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-unusual-thing-about-the-american-diet-to-people-of-other-nationalities/612980/282 "2012-02-18T16:20:07Z")

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> [@Hello\_Again](#):
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> So in your opinion, fish in set aspic would be improved with the addition of 3/4 cup of pure sugar,artificial lime flavor and some pimento olives? And perhaps a lovely dollop of mayonaise?
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> Good to know. I’m afraid I’m too busy for dinner at your place… forever.
> 
> Believe me, my family still serves sturgeon in aspic on occasion (and its a hell of a lot more appetizing than the pic on that wiki page! As others have said, its jelled but still soft). There is no commonality between fish cooked in its own broth with some completely appropriate vegetables, and 12 kinds of random crap mixed with Jello. Which, allow me to reiterate, **is 80% sugar**.

I didn’t notice/understand that the jello was sweet. If so, I completely agree with the puke smiley.

But I’ve seen mixed aspics with olives and a dollop of mayo on the top, so…

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-unusual-thing-about-the-american-diet-to-people-of-other-nationalities/612980/284 "2012-02-18T20:16:37Z")

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Late to the show, but I couldn’t believe the sheer quantities of cheese that are used in American cooking when I got back from living in South America. I just never noticed it before I left, but when I got back, it felt like everything I ate was smothered in cheese.

Yes, you eat cheese out of the country, but it’s usually to enjoy the flavor of the cheese or to mutually enhance food and drink, and you don’t eat that much. But in the U.S., heavy amounts of cheese seem to be very common, especially in the midwest.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-unusual-thing-about-the-american-diet-to-people-of-other-nationalities/612980/285 "2012-02-18T20:36:36Z")

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> [@overlyverbose](#):
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> Late to the show, but I couldn’t believe the sheer quantities of cheese that are used in American cooking when I got back from living in South America. I just never noticed it before I left, but when I got back, it felt like everything I ate was smothered in cheese.
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> Yes, you eat cheese out of the country, but it’s usually to enjoy the flavor of the cheese or to mutually enhance food and drink, and you don’t eat that much. But in the U.S., heavy amounts of cheese seem to be very common, especially in the midwest.

Yeah, too much for me. I guess you get used to it, but it made me sick.

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**Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-unusual-thing-about-the-american-diet-to-people-of-other-nationalities/612980/286 "2012-02-18T21:48:38Z")

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> [@Candyman74](#):
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> Yeah, too much for me. I guess you get used to it, but it made me sick.

Hmm. In three years living there, I never got used to it. Excessive cheese would also by my answer to the OP’s question.

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> [@Norse](#):
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> I didn’t notice/understand that the jello was sweet. If so, I completely agree with the puke smiley.
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> But I’ve seen mixed aspics with olives and a dollop of mayo on the top, so…

I’m not American but I make a lovely tomato aspic which has no sugar at all in it. Tomato juice, various spices, gelatin and some veg. It’s served with cottage cheese mixed with mayo and garnished with avocado, grape tomatoes and bell peppers of differing varietys.

It’s quite tasty and always very popular. However, if you made it with a Jello powder - well, that would be disgusting.

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> [@Chopper9760](#):
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> That was a pretty kick ass guess though, I couldn’t think of anything pink, sweet, and spreadable straight off.

Strawberry jam fits the description.

But liver pate and salmon spread may also fit the description. They are on the sweet side of savory foods.

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**Post date:** [February 19, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-unusual-thing-about-the-american-diet-to-people-of-other-nationalities/612980/289 "2012-02-19T01:43:37Z")

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> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#):
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> I’m not American but I make a lovely tomato aspic which has no sugar at all in it. Tomato juice, various spices, gelatin and some veg. It’s served with cottage cheese mixed with mayo and garnished with avocado, grape tomatoes and bell peppers of differing varietys.
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> It’s quite tasty and always very popular. However, if you made it with a Jello powder - well, that would be disgusting.

Hey, this actually does sound nice. You have won me over. 🙂

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> The portion sizes, definitely.  
> Another one for the frozen cookie dough.  
> That people seem to actually _prefer_ foods with HFCS over sugar?  
> Or what seems to pass for chocolate there (granted, I’ve only had Hershey’s and See’s candy)
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> ek:

You have a problem with See’s candy? It’s not even in the same universe with Hershey’s…

Joe

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**Post date:** [February 19, 2012, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-unusual-thing-about-the-american-diet-to-people-of-other-nationalities/612980/291 "2012-02-19T09:02:57Z")

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> [@wheresgeorge04](#):
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> You have a problem with See’s candy? It’s not even in the same universe with Hershey’s…

I had See’s for the first time a few months ago and I agree. It’s a little sweet and cloying, but is pretty nice otherwise and definitely a different animal to Hurl-sheys.

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When I first met my Ex’s father, he served us a molded orange jello containing bean sprouts, carrots and minced red onion. Really.\*

In and of itself, instant gelatin is the most digusting “food” I can imagine. Seriously, sausage-making has nothing on this stuff. Don’t eat it.

Aspic is the natural juices and proteins produced by cooking fresh fsh or meat, which become fairly solid when stored in the fridge. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Anyone who can’t recognize the utter perfection that is See’s chocolate has no business writing food reviews in even the most casual setting. 😉 Hershey’s, on the other hand, does have a scent of spoiled milk about it, and I can’t stand the stuff. The early advertisements passed this off as “A hint of the barnyard” in an attempt to make it appealing. Yech.

I would guesstimate that about 35% of American housholds would have a jar of marshmallow fluff in the pantry, and about 60% of those would eventually be thrown away unopened. It’s the sort of thing you buy in preparation for the holidays, in case you need a batch of quick fudge to send off with the kids to a school party they told you about right before bed the night before. There are a very few people who will eat a sandwich of white bread, peanut butter, and fluff, but none I know of those would argue that this was actual “food.”

\*I hasten to add that this is no longer “normal” in the USA, although it was a fairly common food in the 1950’s, and considered the sort of thing that well-off suburbanites would eat.

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> I had See’s for the first time a few months ago and I agree. It’s a little sweet and cloying, but is pretty nice otherwise and definitely a different animal to Hurl-sheys.

I agree that it’s a tad too sweet.

Joe

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I always go for the [dark](http://www.sees.com/prod.cfm/Dark_Chocolates/Almond_Royal) chocolate, so I’ll concede the possibility that their milk chocolate is less than optimal. But these [almond-toffees](http://www.sees.com/prod.cfm/Brittles_Toffees/Toffee_ettes) are to die for.

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> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#):
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> I’m not American but I make a lovely tomato aspic…

Yes, that does sound good.

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> [@wheresgeorge04](#):
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> You have a problem with See’s candy? It’s not even in the same universe with Hershey’s…

> [@jjimm](#):
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> I had See’s for the first time a few months ago and I agree. It’s a little sweet and cloying, but is pretty nice otherwise and definitely a different animal to Hurl-sheys.

> [@TruCelt](#):
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> Anyone who can’t recognize the utter perfection that is See’s chocolate has no business writing food reviews in even the most casual setting. 😉

It’s too cloying, and that double goes for the fillings. I prefer my chocolate more chocolate-tasting. Dark, bittersweet, coverture. Without the extra sweetness I find in See’s.

Plus it was too melty.

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> [@Aspidistra](#):
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> All these mentions of peanut butter and nobody’s mentioned peanut butter AND JELLY?

We are indoctrinated very early… I once tried to introduce a German friend’s 5 year old to PB’nJ - I guess he was too old. He did not take to it but on the spot he took to combining peanut butter with Nutella on his bread. Sort of like a Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup sandwich to me:eek:

> [@](#):
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> Dear God, why?

Care to explain Vegemite;)

If you have issues with PB’nJ, how about an [Elvis Sandwich](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_butter,_banana_and_bacon_sandwich)?

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-most-unusual-thing-about-the-american-diet-to-people-of-other-nationalities/612980/298 "2012-02-20T03:40:03Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> It’s too cloying  
> …  
> Plus it was too melty.

Cloying = melty surely. That’s what I meant anyway.

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I understand cloying to mean too sweet.

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I understand cloying to mean too sweet.

Oh dear. I think I’ve been using that word incorrectly all my life.

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