# What is the name of that idiotic medical pseudoscience...

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**Created:** [November 10, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-that-idiotic-medical-pseudoscience/517050 "2009-11-10T15:44:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-that-idiotic-medical-pseudoscience/517050/21 "2009-11-11T16:25:23Z")

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1. The OP was . . . argumentative.
2. The OP answered his own question.
3. Whatever factual question there was to this thread has been resolved.

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Therefore, I’ll move this thread from General Questions to Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share.

**Gfactor**  
General Questions Moderator

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-that-idiotic-medical-pseudoscience/517050/22 "2009-11-11T16:30:31Z")

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> [@Gfactor](#):
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> 1. The OP was . . . argumentative.
> 2. The OP answered his own question.
> 3. Whatever factual question there was to this thread has been resolved.
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> Therefore, I’ll move this thread from General Questions to Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share.
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> **Gfactor**  
> General Questions Moderator

Gfactor, I’d be grateful if you refrained from casting aspersions–well, that particular aspersion–upon my character. I was not trying to start a debate; nor am I in the custom of opening stealth GD threads in GQ. I simply could not recall the word _homeopathy_. You’ll note that the answer to the question came in an edit two minutes after the thread was posted; I simply had tip-of-the-tongue syndrome.

Moving the thread is your call, obviously. But if you could refrain from being needlessly insulting, that’d be great.

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-that-idiotic-medical-pseudoscience/517050/23 "2009-11-11T17:09:04Z")

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> [@Elysium](#):
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> Here, let me let Michell and Webb explain it:  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0)

You bastard! I was going to post that. 😃  
Instead I’ll post this delightful rant from Dara O’Briain.  
[Homeopathy & Nutritionists vs Real Science!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIaV8swc-fo)

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**Author:** ![otternell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecc23a/32.png) [@otternell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/otternell)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-that-idiotic-medical-pseudoscience/517050/24 "2009-11-11T17:18:36Z")

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> [@badbadrubberpiggy](#):
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> What is it? Is it actually homeopathic, or is it just a natural/herbal supplement or something?
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> If it’s actually homeopathic, I’d say it’s a placebo affect. But a lot of herbs in the correct dosages (ie, more than you get in homeopathic medicines) will make you relaxed and sleepy.

Nope the bottle says homeopathic and on the ingredients its lists the x10 (or whatever) that means how many times its been diluted (or whatever). Its called Calms Forte and its mostly passion flower and chamomile (which are herbal remedies for these same issues) but that have been homeopathitized (?).

**Kayaker** as far as the herbal remedy you smoke, yeah, that works great, but I definitely have a “hangover” of sorts when I wake up the next day. And it generally makes me fairly stupid, and since I do a good enough job with that task on my own. Thanks but no thanks. Plus, if you have a job wherein the a-holes like urinalysis, then it doesn’t do you much good.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-that-idiotic-medical-pseudoscience/517050/25 "2009-11-11T18:06:53Z")

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> [@otternell](#):
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> Is it the homeopathy, or my belief that this stupid little pill will help me sleep?

It’s not the homeopathy.

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**Author:** ![valleyofthedolls](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a4c791/32.png) [@valleyofthedolls](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/valleyofthedolls)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-that-idiotic-medical-pseudoscience/517050/26 "2009-11-11T18:29:28Z")

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> [@otternell](#):
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> Nope the bottle says homeopathic and on the ingredients its lists the x10 (or whatever) that means how many times its been diluted (or whatever). Its called Calms Forte and its mostly passion flower and chamomile (which are herbal remedies for these same issues) but that have been homeopathitized (?).
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> **Kayaker** as far as the herbal remedy you smoke, yeah, that works great, but I definitely have a “hangover” of sorts when I wake up the next day. And it generally makes me fairly stupid, and since I do a good enough job with that task on my own. Thanks but no thanks. Plus, if you have a job wherein the a-holes like urinalysis, then it doesn’t do you much good.

IIRC, Calms Forte is mostly tissue/cell salts. Kinda like homeopathy in the dilution but _in theory_ don’t work on the like cures like principle.

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**Author:** ![otternell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecc23a/32.png) [@otternell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/otternell)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-that-idiotic-medical-pseudoscience/517050/27 "2009-11-11T18:34:05Z")

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> [@valleyofthedolls](#):
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> IIRC, Calms Forte is mostly tissue/cell salts. Kinda like homeopathy in the dilution but _in theory_ don’t work on the like cures like principle.

thanks for the clarification. I had read that about homeopathy (like cures like) and that had gotten me a little confused regarding the Calms, but placebo affect or actual herbal affect doesn’t matter to me as long as I can get a blissful nights sleep!

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