# What is the name of this beard style?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 31, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-this-beard-style/350645 "2006-03-31T02:18:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-this-beard-style/350645/21 "2006-04-01T03:08:31Z")

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I refuse to give up my whateveryoucallit. My wife hates full beards, and my mouth looks too small without the fur. Van Dyke, goatee, talking vagina…I’m keeping my facial hair!

\*He that hath a beard is more than a youth, and he that hath no beard is less than a man. \*  
Much Ado about Nothing. Act ii. Sc. 1.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-this-beard-style/350645/22 "2006-04-01T03:27:52Z")

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> [@Atticus Finch](#):
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> Worked with some Dutch girls in Texas for a while, where nearly every guy seems to have one of those. Their phrase for it was something like “spriegende kutsch”, the polite translation of which is “talking vagina”.

Years ago, a friend told me that his grandfather called it a “cookie duster” :dubious:

> [@silenus](#):
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> I refuse to give up my whateveryoucallit. My wife hates full beards, and my mouth looks too small without the fur. Van Dyke, goatee, talking vagina…I’m keeping my facial hair!

I shave my head, and you pretty much have to wear a goatee or Van Dyck with a shaved head. A completely hairless head looks like a lightbulb, and a full beard would look ridiculous with the sideburn portions disappearing into bare scalp …

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**Author:** ![antechinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@antechinus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antechinus)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-this-beard-style/350645/23 "2006-04-01T03:40:21Z")

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The goatee style of face furniture was big in the early nineties. Always reminds me of the comedian [Elliot Goblet](http://www.westsidetalent.com.au/images/elliot-goblet.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-this-beard-style/350645/24 "2006-04-01T04:47:33Z")

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> [@Atticus Finch](#):
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> Worked with some Dutch girls in Texas for a while, where nearly every guy seems to have one of those. Their phrase for it was something like “spriegende kutsch”, the polite translation of which is “talking vagina”.

Reminds me of the classic joke:

The farmer and his wife had worked hard to send their son away to college. As soon as the boy started school, he grew a goatee. Being pleased with his new look, he sent a picture of himself to his parents. On the back he wrote “How do you like it? Don’t I look like a count?”

Shortly after, the son received the reply: “Dammit, boy, it cost a fortune to send you to school, and you don’t even know how to spell right!”

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**Author:** ![Agnostic\_Pagan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@Agnostic\_Pagan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agnostic_Pagan)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-this-beard-style/350645/25 "2006-04-01T07:31:23Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> It’s a goatee. I have one, and I should know. (I’ve \*\*never \*\*heard it called a doorknocker). A Van Dyke is like a goatee, except the moustache is pointed (or curled) at the ends, and the beard is pointier.

Ditto to all of the above. When I get older I want to grow it out into a Fu Manchu.

A guy I worked with a couple summers ago had a Viking or [Saxon](http://www.crescent-stars.net/fallenknights/character.shtml), (scroll down for Cynric’s pic). He looked just like the character, but about ten years older, and his braid was a bit thinner. It was a bit freaky at first actually.

And for the record, I love [Freddy Garcia](http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/player.jsp?player_id=150119) (just wish he would have taken the Mariners to the World Series rather than those other guys… who were they? 🙂 )  
but I cannot stand that style of beard he wears. I’ve seen alot of other players sporting it also. Does that style have any particular name?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-this-beard-style/350645/26 "2006-04-01T09:25:36Z")

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> [@Agnostic Pagan](#):
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> Does that style have any particular name?

Neither picture shows the whole thing, but that looks like a chinstrap beard. With the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln, I don’t think anybody looks good with that kind of beard.

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**Author:** ![Ichbin\_Dubist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-this-beard-style/350645/27 "2006-04-01T12:48:31Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> So it’s a goatee, huh? Or at least that’s the consensus?
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> However, the common definition of “goatee”, as I understand it, is merely a tuft of hair on the chin, regardless of any mustache.

I’ve always heard the moustache-and-chin-beard combo called a goatee (even if it’s “really” a Van Dyke, although one has actually called it that since 1915), and the tuft under the lower lip as a soul patch or Diz (in honor of Dizzy Gillespie).

A term I’d like to see gain currency is “Donegal beard” for the chin-only, Leprechaun-style beard featured in this fine documentary.

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**Author:** ![Ichbin\_Dubist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2006, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-name-of-this-beard-style/350645/28 "2006-04-01T12:57:26Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Neither picture shows the whole thing, but that looks like a chinstrap beard. With the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln, I don’t think anybody looks good with that kind of beard.

I would call this thing on Freddy Garcia’s face an I-can’t-grow-a-beard beard. I’ve never desired a third armpit, myself. Freddy should try for a Donegal, or even the full Amish if he really wants to make an impression from sixty feet, six inches away.

Admittedly, this does in fact look good on almost no one. The last time I shaved off a beard I did the 'stache first and this look lasted all of ten minutes. (The time before that I left the moustache and I looked so seventies I laughed for 20 minutes.) I have a feeling it would be a good look to sort of weed out the 99.5% of the opposite sex most concerned with appearances, if that were at all desirable. It’s like the male equivalent of a women shaving her head.

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