# What is the point of running as a far left candidate? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 31, 2018, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859 "2018-07-31T09:55:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/61 "2018-08-02T11:52:22Z")
Either that or we should send them a link to this thread proving their point. I find it jaw dropping that here, of all places, where someone is seeking an answer and is given the answer (and in a simple and easily understood way) is utterly immune to it and continues to embrace their bullshit dogma they entered with. > [@](#): > > **It Won’t Matter, But Medicare for All Would Cost Less and Cover 30 Million More Americans** > > They’ll just scream “$32 trillion!” over and over. > > SOURCE: [Study Shows Medicare for All Would Be Cheaper, Cover 30 Million More People - Opponents Yell '$32 Trillion'](https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a22617204/medicare-for-all-cheaper-cover-30-million-more/) ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/62 "2018-08-02T15:33:54Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Trump tax cuts are $1.5 trillion, giving you $30.5 trillion to raise over ten years. $10K per person. Yes and private spending goes down to offset it. Lots of us have no problem with paying taxes if it means lower private spending. I’ve never felt like paying $500 to see a doctor out of my bank account made me free, but paying $500 in medicare taxes so I can see a doctor when I’m retired made me a slave. You have to understand virtually nobody under 40 was alive and aware when communism existed. We haven’t been told that public = bad, private = good. We just want whatever is best. If there were consistent evidence that a privately run health care system was cheaper and better than a public system, I’d support it. I’m sure a lot of other leftists would too. But virtually every piece of evidence I’ve seen shows that a public health system is (vastly) superior to a private health system. Cheaper and better outcomes. So we support that instead. > [@RTFirefly](#): > > [it would save $2 TRILLION over a decade](https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2018/07/30/mercatus-study-finds-medicare-for-all-saves-2-trillion/). And that’s according to a conservative/libertarian think tank. When Vermont studied their single payer plan, they predicted savings of 25%. > **[William Hsiao's single payer proposal for Vermont - PNHP](http://pnhp.org/news/william-hsiaos-single-payer-proposal-for-vermont/)** > > Statement by William C. HsiaoVermont State LegislatureJanuary 19, 2011Although advocates of the pure single payer model will find some problems with this report on a reform proposal for Vermont, there is very good news in this analysis. The report... > [@](#): > > Act 128 calls upon our team to develop three options. The Legislature requires that we evaluate a state government-administered and publicly-financed single-payer health benefits system. This system, which we refer to as Option 1, would provide all Vermonters with a uniform benefits package. Within those parameters, we looked at costs of both a “comprehensive” benefits package and a leaner, “essential” benefits package, which I will define and discuss later. The second option is a state government-administered, public option that would allow Vermonters to choose between public and private insurance coverage. Option 2 is designed to allow for and promote competition between the public and private plans, while keeping in place the current multiple payer system. Act 128 allows our team to develop a third option that we design after analyzing all aspects of Vermont’s health care and assessing the positions of key stakeholders across the State of Vermont. We call Option 3 a public/private single-payer system. It provides an “essential” benefits package, is administered by an independent board with diverse representation, and it employs a competitively-selected third party to manage provider relations and claims adjudication and processing. > > In analyzing the three options, we determined that all will yield significant savings. However, our research and analysis indicate that the single-payer options will have a more dramatic impact on reducing cost than the public option because they incorporate a uniform benefits package and reduce much of the administrative structure needed to compensate multiple payers. Therefore, we estimate that Option 1 will produce savings of 24.3% of total health expenditure between 2015 and 2024. Option 2 will produce savings of 16.1% of total health expenditure between 2015 and 2024. Finally, Option 3 will produce savings of 25.3% of total health expenditure between 2015 and 2024. Option 3 produces additional savings as compared to Option 1 because it incorporates a public/private partnership in governance and administration. The right wing think tank plan seems to only predict savings of 7% or so. The person who designed Vermont’s system, William Hsiao, is a well respected international health care economist who has helped design several nation’s health care systems, so his numbers aren’t just pulled out of his ass either. A system where health care costs drop by 25% in a decade would be very impressive. Sadly Vermont abandoned their single payer plan because the taxes were too high. But that isn’t a criticism of single payer it is a criticism of our bloated health care system. It has gotten so expensive that the taxes needed to fund it could hurt business. However his study did find a strong public option would provide 2/3 of the cost savings of single payer. Sadly the time to implement single payer was probably in the 40s, 50s or 60s when health care costs were still low. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/63 "2018-08-02T15:58:42Z")
All the right-wing parrots who post here better check their feeds for a new set of talking points. Turns out that real-world conservatives - meaning Fox & Friends viewers - actually want healthcare and don’t care about the [pricetag](https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/08/01/fox-friends-poll-designed-discredit-medicare-all-explodes-their-face). > [@](#): > > When President Donald Trump’s favorite right-wing television program “Fox & Friends” launched a Twitter poll on Tuesday asking whether the benefits of Medicare for All “outweigh the costs,” they likely didn’t expect 73 percent of the nearly 32,000 respondents to answer yes—but that’s precisely what happened. I’m pretty sure that Trump will tweet tomorrow about how Medicare for All was his idea all along and that the Democrats need to stop obstructing it. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/64 "2018-08-02T16:25:16Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > All the right-wing parrots who post here better check their feeds for a new set of talking points. Turns out that real-world conservatives - meaning Fox & Friends viewers - actually want healthcare and don’t care about the [pricetag](https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/08/01/fox-friends-poll-designed-discredit-medicare-all-explodes-their-face). > > > [@](#): > > > > When President Donald Trump’s favorite right-wing television program “Fox & Friends” launched a Twitter poll on Tuesday asking whether the benefits of Medicare for All “outweigh the costs,” they likely didn’t expect 73 percent of the nearly 32,000 respondents to answer yes—but that’s precisely what happened. I suspect 73% of Fox viewers are on Medicare. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/65 "2018-08-02T17:11:23Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > I suspect 73% of Fox viewers are on Medicare. They’re dropping fast though.The 73% will hold but other number containing it will get smaller and smaller. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/66 "2018-08-02T17:18:39Z")
And how can we forget: [Fox News Struggling To Attract Younger 60-75 Demographic](https://www.theonion.com/fox-news-struggling-to-attract-younger-60-75-demographi-1820392371) ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/67 "2018-08-02T18:52:56Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Meanwhile, in reality, Bernie Sanders basically single-handedly dragged the democratic party hard to the left through his presidential bid. He more or less single-handedly changed the conversation to the point where it was even _possible_ for someone like Ocasio-Cortez to run on the platform she ran on. These people are moving the overton window. Maybe we won’t see results immediately, but you know how we’ll _never_ see results? If all we ever run are milquetoast centrist liberals with no interest in rocking the boat. > > I’m really not sure how to make sense of your complaints. I think they kinda… don’t. Bernie Sanders accomplished nothing except his own ego trip. AOC won in a fluke, in a heavily Democratic district with a large Latino population. I’m quite eager to see all her candidates lose in the upcoming primaries and perhaps she’ll understand that she’s not a Progressive Goddess anointed by Archangels from the Democratic Socialists. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/68 "2018-08-02T18:59:50Z")
Messianic complex. Postmillenialism in secular garb. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/69 "2018-08-02T19:21:05Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Bernie Sanders accomplished nothing except his own ego trip. No matter how often you tell yourself this, it will still be false. Lots of Democrats and progressives liked and still like his message, and this could be greatly beneficial to the party. The party should, and in general does, welcome progressives that support Sanders and his policies, as well as Steve Bullock and Mark Warner, and everyone in between. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/70 "2018-08-02T19:50:03Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > So my question to Sanders, AOC, and their ilk is, how exactly are you going to implement Medicare for all or free college? Dunno about free college, but I recall having seen some plans to work towards Medicare for All that start with a public option. And a public option would be an _easy_ sell if the Dems retake Congress. Also, my impression is that support for Medicare for All is increasing across the board, including among Dems in Congress, because of how vulnerable to sabotage the ACA has turned out to be. People want universal health care. > [@](#): > > Also, these types of candidates and their supporters seem to want to make every battle a hill to die on with compromise being an ugly word. I’m not seeing more evidence of that than people taking strong stands in campaigns. That’s what candidates _should_ do: run on what they really want to accomplish. Now if they retake Congress and refuse to vote for the most liberal option that can get 218 votes in the House and 51 votes in the Senate, then you’ll be proven right. > [@](#): > > Is free college a solution? Maybe. But not everyone sees the number one problem being white middle class kids with liberal arts degrees from private schools who are struggling with debt. No, and not everyone sees the number one problem being working class kids of all races who feel they can’t afford even the state schools. But it is a real problem. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/71 "2018-08-05T07:42:43Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Meanwhile, in reality, Bernie Sanders basically single-handedly dragged the democratic party hard to the left through his presidential bid. He more or less single-handedly changed the conversation to the point where it was even _possible_ for someone like Ocasio-Cortez to run on the platform she ran on. These people are moving the overton window. Maybe we won’t see results immediately, but you know how we’ll _never_ see results? If all we ever run are milquetoast centrist liberals with no interest in rocking the boat. > > I’m really not sure how to make sense of your complaints. I think they kinda… don’t. He didn’t move anything. He promised free benefits at no cost to the vast majority of taxpayers. No country does that, because the math doesn’t work out. Responsible Demcorats used to not promise such things not because they didn’t want to deliver them, but because they knew they couldn’t deliver the necessary tax increases. Bernie’s solution: just don’t talk about tax increases on the middle class. That’s like saying a Republican is moving the Overton Window right if he promises that no one under $200K in income will ever pay taxes again. I’m sure tons of people would support that. But it doesn’t mean anything, because it means losing their Social Security and Medicare and you can’t sell that. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/72 "2018-08-05T07:47:15Z")
> [@harmonicamoon](#): > > A far left candidate brings new, fresh ideas to the table. These ideas normally wouldn’t get discussed. > > Eventually people start to think, “Why not health care for all”. > > And lo, and behold, it happens. > > All because some far left candidate gave it the spark. What’s new about the Democratic Party trying to go back to the days of William Jennings Bryan? You all said the same optimistic things about single payer in Vermont, and then they scored the thing and reality took over. Because you didn’t address any real problems: how do you pay for it, how do you manage the very powerful losers(doctors, union workers, government workers), and how do you get Manchin to support it? Or if you can’t, how do you get several red states to elect ultra progressive Senators? Anyone who thinks this is a fresh idea must have missed oh, Clinton/Obama/Edwards’ UHC plans, the plan Democrats passed that they SAID was universal health care when they were selling it, or the fact that this idea is older than anyone alive today. What’s next, a politician suggesting mercantilism and everyone thinks it’s an amazing new idea? How about feudalism? Fresh and exciting! ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/73 "2018-08-05T08:05:43Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > He didn’t move anything. This is blatantly untrue; the new movement of hard-left candidates is proof enough of that. > [@](#): > > He promised free benefits at no cost to the vast majority of taxpayers. Well [that’s _also_ blatantly untrue](http://time.com/4194179/bernie-sanders-tax-plan/); Sanders made it clear that no small part of his plan would be paid for by tax hikes on the middle-class. > [@](#): > > No country does that, because the math doesn’t work out. Responsible Demcorats used to not promise such things not because they didn’t want to deliver them, but because they knew they couldn’t deliver the necessary tax increases. Bernie’s solution: just don’t talk about tax increases on the middle class. :rolleyes: Sure, man, whatever you say. > [@](#): > > That’s like saying a Republican is moving the Overton Window right if he promises that no one under $200K in income will ever pay taxes again. I’m sure tons of people would support that. But it doesn’t mean anything, because it means losing their Social Security and Medicare and you can’t sell that. Well, if a large portion of the population _expects_ their tax bill to go towards zero, and a large movement springs up to support nobody under $200k paying taxes, and the only reason we don’t know whether that movement will be successful or not is because we’re _currently in the middle of it_, then yeah, that republican absolutely moved the overton window! ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/74 "2018-08-06T03:42:38Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > So, will universal healthcare cost more? Well, The Koch Brothers paid for a study on this with a libertarian think tank and the think tank came to the conclusion universal healthcare would [save $2 trillion](http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/399625-sanders-thanks-koch-brothers-for-accidentally-making-argument-for-medicare) over the cost of the current system over a ten year period. > > Take that $2 trillion and rescind the Trump tax cut for another [$2.3 trillion](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/28/tax-cuts-trump-gop-analysis-430781). Now we have $4.3 trillion to play with. And all that is just dealing with things as they were when Trump took office. Free tuition seems doable. We have not even begun to talk about closing tax loopholes or taxing the rich more. I’m with you. Just wanted to point out that the new income tax rates needed to pay for Medicare for All will cancel out some of the tax cuts Trumpy gave the rich so it wouldn’t be $4.3 trillion. The fatcats are still getting off easy. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/75 "2018-08-06T12:47:39Z")
So, Bernie Sanders will raise taxes on the middle class. I haven’t heard him say that, but at least now it’s fair for me to use that as an attack.🙂 BTW, all actual Democrats running on Medicare for All and other various big programs refuse to even hint at how they’ll pay for it, and when they do they cite mainstream Democratic policies on taxes. Moving the Overton Window on spending but not on taxes does nothing. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/76 "2018-08-06T12:55:24Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Moving the Overton Window on spending but not on taxes does nothing. Does nothing? If “Medicare for All” becomes a popular slogan and wins the Democrats control of Congress and the WH, then it will probably become policy. And maybe deficits will soar (or perhaps just stay at the sky-high standard Republican deficit sizes), or maybe they’ll try and pay for it, but moving the Overton window could very well make the policy happen. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/77 "2018-08-06T13:13:05Z")
You can’t fund an expensive entitlement by borrowing. It’s never been done. Look, the CBO will score it, everyone will go “holy shit!” and then it fails, just like it has in the states. The idea that the federal government can make it work where the states can’t assumes many things which are not necessarily true, such as the federal government’s ability to cut the incomes of doctors or find savings in better medical practices. Both have already been tried and failed in previous health care reform efforts. Savings may come, but it won’t happen in the first few years, which means you have to figure out how to pay for it in the meantime. Unions and government employees won’t be willing to give up their gold-plated plans for Medicaid. Affluent but not rich worrkers in blue states won’t be willing to pay more than they do now, which will be necessary under any progressive financing scheme. And then you have to get Jon Manchin’s vote, at minimum. Finally, Medicare for All is a slogan. What Sanders and others are proposing bears no resemblance to Medicare. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/78 "2018-08-06T13:17:11Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > All the right-wing parrots who post here better check their feeds for a new set of talking points. Turns out that real-world conservatives - meaning Fox & Friends viewers - actually want healthcare and don’t care about the [pricetag](https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/08/01/fox-friends-poll-designed-discredit-medicare-all-explodes-their-face). It’s entirely possible “real-world conservatives” are of that opinion, but a twitter poll is not good evidence of it. a) Fox&Friends twitter followers are at best a skewed subset of Fox & Friends viewers. and b) Fox&Friends twitter poll takers are unlikely to be representative even Fox&Friends viewers, especially on a topic likely to be retweeted multiple times by non-conservatives eager to embarrass Fox News. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/79 "2018-08-06T13:20:54Z")
Not to mention a lot of people seem to be assuming they’ll pay less. That promise is always the first to be broken. That’s why we have a CBO now, to curtail that crap. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859/80 "2018-08-06T13:37:49Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > You can’t fund an expensive entitlement by borrowing. It’s never been done. > > Look, the CBO will score it, everyone will go “holy shit!” and then it fails, just like it has in the states. The idea that the federal government can make it work where the states can’t assumes many things which are not necessarily true, such as the federal government’s ability to cut the incomes of doctors or find savings in better medical practices. Both have already been tried and failed in previous health care reform efforts. Savings may come, but it won’t happen in the first few years, which means you have to figure out how to pay for it in the meantime. Unions and government employees won’t be willing to give up their gold-plated plans for Medicaid. Affluent but not rich worrkers in blue states won’t be willing to pay more than they do now, which will be necessary under any progressive financing scheme. > > And then you have to get Jon Manchin’s vote, at minimum. > > Finally, Medicare for All is a slogan. What Sanders and others are proposing bears no resemblance to Medicare. I’ll file this cite-free prediction with all of your others. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-point-of-running-as-a-far-left-candidate/818859.md?page=5)