# What is the song "China Girl" about? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 4, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296 "2009-11-04T17:24:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/1 "2009-11-04T17:24:04Z")
I remember this song being popular back in the 80’s. I heard it last night on the radio and actually paid attention to the lyrics. They didn’t seem to make much sense, so I assumed I must be mis-hearing some of the words. So I visited a couple lyrics sights. Yes, I did mis-hear. No, it still doesn’t make much sense. Anybody have any insights to offer? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/2 "2009-11-04T17:28:33Z")
I always assumed it was from the POV of a white soldier stationed abroad during WWII, in a relationship with a Chinese woman (or at least having a romance as a metaphor for the West encroaching on the East e.g. ‘I’ll give you television / I’ll give you eyes of blue / I’ll give you men who want to rule the world.’) ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/3 "2009-11-04T17:44:52Z")
Like any poem worth anything, it’s about more than one thing. On the one hand, it is about cultural imperialism (“you shouldn’t mess with me, I’ll ruin everything you are”). On the other hand, it’s about drug withdrawal, China white being a form of heroin, and the song being written when David Bowie and Iggy Pop were in Berlin trying to clean up their acts (“I’m a mess without my little China girl; wake up in the morning, where’s my China girl?”).\* On the other hand, it’s basic romantic angst. To paraphrase: Boy: I love you, I need you, but I’m bad news, baby. Girl: Shut up. - I think the drug connection is fairly weak, but it must be included under the “all rock songs are really about drugs” principle. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/4 "2009-11-04T18:31:40Z")
Oh baby, just you shut your mouse. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/5 "2009-11-04T19:13:23Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > ‘I’ll give you television / I’ll give you eyes of blue / I’ll give you men who want to rule the world.’) Is that the line? I always thought it was “I’ll give you man-o-wars to rule the world.” ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/6 "2009-11-04T19:17:52Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > Is that the line? I always thought it was “I’ll give you man-o-wars to rule the world.” Upon re-listen and re-Google, it might actually be ‘a man who wants.’ But I don’t think the US is giving anyone killer jellyfish. Though there was that racehorse… ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/7 "2009-11-04T19:21:03Z")
…a Man-o-War is also a battleship. …or was I whooshed? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/8 "2009-11-04T19:22:25Z")
Oops, of course. Also, yes on drugs. ---
**Author:** ![Chicken\_Fingers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Chicken\_Fingers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicken_Fingers)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/9 "2009-11-04T19:31:06Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > Oh baby, just you shut your mouse. Hah! That’s how I sing it, too. ---
**Author:** ![Umbriel2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/4af34b/32.png) [@Umbriel2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Umbriel2)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/10 "2009-11-04T21:48:41Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > Upon re-listen and re-Google, it might actually be ‘a man who wants.’ But I don’t think the US is giving anyone killer jellyfish. Though there was that racehorse… [Or, maybe we are…](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/6483758/Japanese-fishing-trawler-sunk-by-giant-jellyfish.html) ---
**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/11 "2009-11-04T22:18:00Z")
Hrm. I always heard it as ‘a voice to rule the world’, therefore going all geopolitical, but again, YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![MrSquishy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MrSquishy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrSquishy)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/12 "2009-11-04T22:33:15Z")
Definitely “I’ll give you a man who wants to rule the world”. I say “definitely” because I am David Bowie. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/13 "2009-11-04T22:51:58Z")
> [@MrSquishy](#): > > Definitely “I’ll give you a man who wants to rule the world”. I say “definitely” because I am David Bowie. I knew it! your accent gave you away, you know … Sincerely, Peter Weller ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/14 "2009-11-04T23:01:36Z")
According to this, it’s about [stealing rice for Hitler](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXBR2-WIHsQ). (Link goes to an amusing and SFW video, however there is most definitely sound.) But upon just really listening to the words for what may be the first time in my life, I’m going with the drug explanation. ---
**Author:** ![wunderkammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ed8c4c/32.png) [@wunderkammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wunderkammer)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/15 "2009-11-05T05:59:33Z")
> [@MrSquishy](#): > > I say “definitely” because I am David Bowie. I find it amusing that a pig has learned to post in Cafe Society. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/16 "2009-11-05T13:31:21Z")
> [@wunderkammer](#): > > I find it amusing that a pig has learned to post in Cafe Society. What does this mean? ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/17 "2009-11-05T13:35:53Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > What does this mean? It has to do with the link I posted, but I suppose it’s kind of a douchebag thing to say if you didn’t watch the video. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/18 "2009-11-05T14:01:59Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > It has to do with the link I posted, but I suppose it’s kind of a douchebag thing to say if you didn’t watch the video. 🙂 Thanks for clearing that up and for posting the video. I haven’t seen that in 25 years! I somehow can’t imagine a big star making a video today featuring themselves doing " Chinese eyes". ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/19 "2009-11-05T15:41:41Z")
I always envisioned it as being about a dissolute, Colonial-era Englishman drawn to a Chinese woman in an abusive relationship. Not all of the lyrics make sense because he’s drunk and/or an opium addict. I remember there was some controversy at the time the video came out on MTV, because of its perceived anti-Asian/racist tone. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Falling\_Reverend](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aca169/32.png) [@The\_Falling\_Reverend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Falling_Reverend)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296/20 "2009-11-05T16:35:14Z")
Ohh, an Iggy thread, I have a biography were Iggy talks about the person (actually a Vietnamese woman) that he was madly in love with and wrote the song about. I’m in the midst of moving at the moment but I will be back later and dig out that particular volume. Also, this on one of the worst Iggy Pop songs ever, can we talk about Lust For Life? 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-song-china-girl-about/516296.md?page=2)