# What is the state of Bill/Hillary Clinton's marriage? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [November 29, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409 "2011-11-29T02:37:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/21 "2011-12-04T11:24:40Z")
> [@R.P.McMurphy](#): > > Stay out of other people’s marriages. > > Managing one’s own is difficult enough. Bill and Hillary are both very ambitious people and that has worked out for both of them. It seems that the marriage contract that they have between each other (whatever that is) has served to benefit both of them. They probably have a great deal of admiration for each other have worked it out between them. That’s their business and none of ours. > > The Gore’s looked like the ideal couple while the Clinton’s looked like a divorce in the waiting. Which marriage has survived? It seems to tell me that on some level the Clinton’s have a basic mutual respect for each other and want to stay together for whatever their reasons are. I would think that if they were going to divorce it would have happened by now. > > It’s really none of our business. Please have a meltdown in somebody else’s thread. And, let’s be real, this thread is none of \*YOUR \*business. Stay out of it, please. Again, if you must have an incident, do it away from my thread, or any threads which are none of \*YOUR \*business. hh ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/22 "2011-12-04T18:35:55Z")
I believe a how a couple’s children act are the best judge of their marriage. Chelsea Clinton was raised in the White House for eight years. She has never been in any trouble or scandal. Unlike some Presidential daughters I could name ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/23 "2011-12-04T19:07:07Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Unlike some Presidential daughters I could name I agree that Chelsea Clinton seems to be a very good person with a strong moral fiber but this sentiment just drives me nuts. So the Bush twins liked to party a little in college and got caught having alcohol while they were underage. Big fucking deal. Did you party in college? Did you drink before you were 21? Of course you did, almost everybody does. The Bush twins have since grown up to be perfectly normal adults but the fact is they were perfectly normal college students as well. Granted they have a higher burden on them since they were in the public eye and their actions reflected poorly on their father but that’s a far cry from the hedonism and hell raising I see some people level against them. Besides, if W was my dad I’d drink myself into a stupor! ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/24 "2011-12-04T19:15:11Z")
They got caught trying to buy alcohol when underaged. In the state of Texas. Thiking they would not be recognized was sheer stupidity on the genetic level with their daddy, who was also a drunk. ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/25 "2011-12-04T19:20:19Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > Please have a meltdown in somebody else’s thread. > And, let’s be real, this thread is none of \*YOUR \*business. > Stay out of it, please. > Again, if you must have an incident, do it away from my thread, or any threads which are none of \*YOUR \*business. > > hh Hardly a meltdown, compared to yours. If I was threadshitting than it’s because this thread is shit. I have no idea how it stayed in GQ for 5 minutes. It should be in MPSIMS because it is pointless. The only factual answer is that they are still married. There, lock it! If you want to stick your fat nose into celebrity marriages go to the supermarket and buy a stack of tabloids. And since when did you become a mod? You might want to at least become a member of the Board before telling people what to do. ---
**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/26 "2011-12-04T19:29:38Z")
Trying to use a fake ID while a Secret Service Agent is standing right there is indeed Darwin level stupid. Even so, it’s far from scandalous and that people that hate their dad continue to bring this incident up as some sort of “look how awful his kids are” are only showing their own bias. That it was in Texas is incidental - college students _everywhere_ do exactly the same thing. Since then I’ve never seen a single reference to drunken behavior nor references to drug abuse about them. If there were even a hint of impropriety you know as well as I that it would be public knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/27 "2011-12-04T20:06:46Z")
I remember several newspaper accounts that Hillary was at the hospital almost non-stop after Bill’s heart attack and bypass. She was a Senator then. At least that’s one point when they did come together for a crises. I read the Clinton Diaries a couple years ago. Fred Petrovsky visited the Clinton White House regularly to record Clinton’s presidential diary. Fred often saw them in unguarded moments while he set up his equipment and waited to start. He describes a very normal family life. Hillary often joked and teased Bill. Fred also describes some of the tension after the Monica affair. The book is a very worthwhile read. > **[The Clinton Diaries: Petrovsky, Fred: 9781438215648: Amazon.com: Books](https://www.amazon.com/Clinton-Diaries-Fred-Petrovsky/dp/1438215649)** > > The Clinton Diaries \[Petrovsky, Fred\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. The Clinton Diaries My only concern with the book is it is based on Fred’s memories & notes of the diary taping. He gave Bill the original tape after each session. Fred would jot down notes immediately afterward and that’s what the book is based on. The tapes are in Bills possession and have not been released (yet). ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/28 "2011-12-04T20:22:38Z")
I’m no fan of either of them, but it seems as if they both have a deep love, admiration, and respect for each other. They recognize the marriage for what it is: not a traditional side-by-side until death, and Bill gets to whore around, but their bond is enough to keep the relationship together in a way that they both are happy with. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/29 "2011-12-04T20:36:39Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > I saw Bill recently in an interview where he said that they communicate many times a day and try hard to arrange to be together every weekend. And we all know how deeply committed to the truth Bill Clinton is. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/30 "2011-12-04T20:47:59Z")
> [@R.P.McMurphy](#): > > Hardly a meltdown, compared to yours. > > If I was threadshitting than it’s because this thread is shit. I have no idea how it stayed in GQ for 5 minutes. It should be in MPSIMS because it is pointless. The only factual answer is that they are still married. There, lock it! > > If you want to stick your fat nose into celebrity marriages go to the supermarket and buy a stack of tabloids. > > And since when did you become a mod? You might want to at least become a member of the Board before telling people what to do. You are threadshitting. Where does this “_ **If** _ I was threadshitting” come from? If you want to start an opinion thread, put it in IMHO thread. No need to be insulting. You may want to stay out of threads that upset you so much. Hie thee home! You have nothing to do with this thread, and if you believe it is out of place, please contact a mod. Your behavior, I believe that everybody will agree, is threadshitting, so don’t try to say that I am trying to usurp a mod’s role. hh ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/31 "2011-12-04T22:46:47Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > Not only threadshitting, but poor use of apostrophes. > [@handsomeharry](#): > > Please have a meltdown in somebody else’s thread. What the hell? Where are you two getting this? What did **R.P.** say that was so scandalous? > [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Unlike some Presidential daughters I could name Eh, they were really nothing more than regular college kids. Except for the time one of them attended a “Naked Yalie” party and was astonished that someone recognized her and told a reporter. I know other kids don’t have to deal with that, but being the President’s daughter means going to a nudist party and dancing buckass naked should be on the NO list. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/32 "2011-12-04T23:19:43Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Except for the time one of them attended a “Naked Yalie” party and was astonished that someone recognized her and told a reporter. That’s the first time I’ve heard of that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/33 "2011-12-04T23:43:24Z")
> [@R.P.McMurphy](#): > > If you want to stick your fat nose into celebrity marriages go to the supermarket and buy a stack of tabloids. **Moderator Warning** **R. P. McMurphy** , insults are not permitted in GQ, as I am sure you are aware. Your initial comment was inappropriate for GQ as well. This is an official warning. Do not do this again. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/34 "2011-12-04T23:48:18Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > Please have a meltdown in somebody else’s thread. > And, let’s be real, this thread is none of \*YOUR \*business. > Stay out of it, please. > Again, if you must have an incident, do it away from my thread, or any threads which are none of \*YOUR \*business. > > hh > [@handsomeharry](#): > > You are threadshitting. > Where does this “_ **If** _ I was threadshitting” come from? > > If you want to start an opinion thread, put it in IMHO thread. No need to be insulting. You may want to stay out of threads that upset you so much. > Hie thee home! You have nothing to do with this thread, and if you believe it is out of place, please contact a mod. Your behavior, I believe that everybody will agree, is threadshitting, so don’t try to say that I am trying to usurp a mod’s role. > > hh **Moderator Note** **handsomeharry** , if you have a problem with someone else’s posts, report it and let the moderators handle it. Whether or not you think someone else’s offense is clear, it’s not up to you to accuse them of rules violations or give them instructions. No warning issued, but don’t do this again. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/35 "2011-12-04T23:53:29Z")
> [@Frazzled](#): > > Besides, if W was my dad I’d drink myself into a stupor! > [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Thiking they would not be recognized was sheer stupidity on the genetic level with their daddy, who was also a drunk. > [@Shodan](#): > > And we all know how deeply committed to the truth Bill Clinton is. **Moderator Note** **Frazzled** , **Annie X-mas** , and **Shodan** , political jabs are not permitted in GQ. No warnings issued, but don’t do this again. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409/36 "2011-12-04T23:55:59Z")
Since it requires speculation, this thread wasn’t really appropriate for General Questions in the first place. It would have been better for IMHO. But considering it’s become such a train wreck, I’m just going to close it instead of inflicting it on the IMHO mods. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-state-of-bill-hillary-clintons-marriage/604409.md?page=1)