# What is the stupidist movement?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 14, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049 "2012-12-14T18:34:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/21 "2012-12-15T01:32:36Z")

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Anti-vaxers are a good candidate. Most stupidist movements are relatively harmless, but these people are damaging society at large.

My nomination: [Radical Honesty](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Honesty). Basically, it’s a bunch of people who act like dicks.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/22 "2012-12-15T01:42:26Z")

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I’ve always thought the second and third movements of Beethoven’s Ninth were pretty superfluous, even if I wouldn’t call them _stupid_, per se.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/23 "2012-12-15T01:42:34Z")

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> [@flight](#):
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> OK, this is new to me. What is their motivation.

RE: no-poo.

First off, they need a new name for what they’re doing, stat.

Basic idea is that all the harsh surfectants and detergents in modern shampoo are unnecessary for people who aren’t doing anything more strenuous than sitting in an air-conditioned office all day, and contribute to hair shaft damage and excess oil production by the scalp.

Now, as far as I can tell, that’s actually all fairly true. Not really a problem for most people - the damage is minor, and if your scalp is producing more oil than it normally would, eh? You’re washing it every day anyway, so no biggie, right?

Wrong, for these people. It’s apparently a terrible awful horrible no good thing and they resent having to spend money on it.

So they simply STOP WASHING THEIR HAIR. At all. Ever. Some use vinegar to rinse, others will use things like lemon juice or something else “natural” as a rinse, but that’s it.

And yes, their hair apparently gets fairly disgusting after the first two days or so - but the idea (and I’ve never seen it work, but miracles happen, right?) is that eventually the body and the hair reach this point of balance and your hair looks good, and your scalp isn’t oily any longer, and you don’t have to wash it any more!

:rolleyes:

I don’t get it.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/24 "2012-12-15T01:43:47Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> My nomination: [Radical Honesty](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Honesty). Basically, it’s a bunch of people who act like dicks.

Act like dicks and on top of that pile a heapin helpin of insufferable self-righteousness about it.

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**Author:** ![freckafree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freckafree/32/3050_2.png) [@freckafree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freckafree)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/25 "2012-12-15T02:08:15Z")

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> [@LawMonkey](#):
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> I predict splinter groups. Soon we will see the dumbist movement and the ignorantist movement.

I hope I am not the only one who read this as “sphincter groups.”

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/26 "2012-12-15T02:16:42Z")

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The Stupidist Movement is a direct descendant of, and takes their charter from, the [Know Nothing Party](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_Nothing) of the 1850s. I am a Stupidist, and I disprove this massage.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/27 "2012-12-15T03:41:34Z")

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> [@freckafree](#):
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> I hope I am not the only one who read this as “sphincter groups.”

No, you are not.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/28 "2012-12-15T04:04:27Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> I’ll go with the anti-vaccers. Not only stupid but dangerous to boot!

I agreed to debate one next month on an internet radio show. The nitwit thinks his daughter’s Type I diabetes was caused by the hep b vaccine. I normally don’t think they should even be given a platform but I was tired at the time and she caught me off guard so I said yes.

Sigh.

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**Author:** ![FlyByNight512](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/82dd89/32.png) [@FlyByNight512](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyByNight512)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/29 "2012-12-15T04:25:23Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> Anti-vaxers are a good candidate. Most stupidist movements are relatively harmless, but these people are damaging society at large.

Yes indeed, though I’d vote for Sovereign Citizens based on colorfulness. But accepting my vote would probably create joinder, so scratch that.

[Christian Science](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science) goes a nice step past the anti-vaxers in refusing medical treatment of any kind, but they don’t seem to get the press attention that the anti-vaxers do. And at least they’re arguing from a religious angle rather than a complete fuckery of science.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/30 "2012-12-15T04:28:50Z")

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Man, I gotta get out more. When I was a kid, all we had was the Flat Earth Society.

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**Author:** ![Noel\_Prosequi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b19c9b/32.png) [@Noel\_Prosequi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noel_Prosequi)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/31 "2012-12-15T05:22:27Z")

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Worse then flat, the Earth is hollow. Inside is where Flying Saucers live. I gather there is also an internal sun, and everything. You can get there via holes at the poles. You doubt?

> **[Our Earth Is Hollow!](https://www.ourhollowearth.com/)**
>
> Could the earth, moon, planets and stars all be hollow bodies? Amazingly, the answer is Yes! And very likely inhabited within! Come join us on our voyage of discovery...

Oh ye of little faith.

Stupidism taken to magnificent lengths.

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**Author:** ![al27052](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@al27052](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al27052)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/32 "2012-12-15T05:27:09Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I’ve always thought the second and third movements of Beethoven’s Ninth were pretty superfluous, even if I wouldn’t call them _stupid_, per se.

Funny, but the 2nd movement you don’t like?

For that matter, I find the vocal parts of the 4th movement ridiculously cheesy. The instrumental stuff is much, much better, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/33 "2012-12-15T06:37:43Z")

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> [@Lasciel](#):
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> Basic idea is that all the harsh surfectants and detergents in modern shampoo are unnecessary for people who aren’t doing anything more strenuous than sitting in an air-conditioned office all day, and contribute to hair shaft damage and excess oil production by the scalp.

And why can’t they just use sulfate-free and whatever else-free shampoo if they’re that worried about it? And maybe not wash their hair every day but still EVER?

Because they’re gross, that’s why.

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**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/34 "2012-12-15T07:34:19Z")

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> [@Blackberry](#):
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> The “no-poo” (no shampoo) thing is pretty fucking stupid. It’s like they’re just closing their eyes and spinning around until they get dizzy and then pointing at something and then being against that thing. STFU and wash your hair, losers.

Hmm… I haven’t used shampoo or conditioner for about a year now, and I get nothing but compliments about my hair.

Granted, I use baking soda and vinegar to clean it, so I’m not too extreme.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/35 "2012-12-15T09:17:57Z")

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> [@al27052](#):
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> Funny, but the 2nd movement you don’t like?
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> For that matter, I find the vocal parts of the 4th movement ridiculously cheesy. The instrumental stuff is much, much better, IMO.

He might have been thinking of the Fifth Symphony.

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**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/36 "2012-12-15T11:10:32Z")

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The [Breatharians](http://www.breatharian.com/) should probably be on this list.

Although I guess their total rejection of all food and water tends to limit their numbers. (I don’t know if they pass the \>1000 rule of the OP)

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**Author:** ![gracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@gracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gracer)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/37 "2012-12-15T12:21:26Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> I agreed to debate one next month on an internet radio show. The nitwit thinks his daughter’s Type I diabetes was caused by the hep b vaccine. I normally don’t think they should even be given a platform but I was tired at the time and she caught me off guard so I said yes.
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> Sigh.

You’re very brave! Remind us again when the date nears, so we can tune in and cheer you on.

ETA: and another nomination: The Secret! Think really hard that you own a flashy convertible, and it will become true…

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/38 "2012-12-15T12:55:24Z")

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Bowel.

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**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/39 "2012-12-15T13:57:47Z")

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1. I had no idea this no-shampoo thing was a “movement”! I don’t use shampoo (just thoroughly rinse and scrub with hot water), and I’ve only been met with disbelief that my hair could look so normal. I prefer it because (and I admit this sounds gross) it makes my hair easier to part without product and I’m lazy.

2. I want to vote for anti-vaxxers, but it’s kind of a boring vote. Sadly, people have snapped up some of the best ones already.

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**Author:** ![gracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@gracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gracer)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-stupidist-movement/644049/40 "2012-12-15T14:57:47Z")

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> [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](#):
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> 1. I want to vote for anti-vaxxers, but it’s kind of a boring vote. Sadly, people have snapped up some of the best ones already.

I want to vote:

1. Anti-vaxers for most stupid/evil/harmful.

2. The Secret for most stupid.

Because the anti-vaxers do the most damage, but the Secret-followers are really stupid.

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