# What is the target market for this piece of apparel? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 13, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238 "2017-09-13T14:34:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/21 "2017-09-13T20:05:59Z")
Actually, that ridiculously ugly skirt (overskirt? wait, is she wearing that OVER her extra long shirt?) is only thirty bucks so you’re not going to impress any rich people with that. So that’s actually being sold for people to wear, huh? ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/22 "2017-09-13T20:09:37Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Here’s a better question. The side bar has categories for Men, Women, TRF and Kids. What the hell’s a TRF? The clothes appear to be baggy, yet female-cut and draped over waifish young women. But the same categories (trousers, tops, outerwear, etc) are repeated for both Women and TRFs. > > Also, when you want to wealth-signal to the other rich people that you [just escaped from a fashionable asylum.](https://www.zara.com/us/en/trf/skirts/mini-skirt-with-double-belt-c269213p5099561.html) OK, I did an actual LOL when I saw that photo! ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/23 "2017-09-13T20:13:24Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > OK, I did an actual LOL when I saw that photo! Yeah…that’s just after you hit “random” in The Sims. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/24 "2017-09-13T20:18:54Z")
It’s for people that think “Zoolander” was a documentary. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/25 "2017-09-13T20:27:07Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > It’s for people that think “Zoolander” was a documentary. Wait…are you saying it wasn’t??? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/26 "2017-09-13T20:39:19Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I guess I just don’t understand fashion. The asking price for this piece is over 6 thou. I’d be embarrassed to be seen in it, but then again, I’m far from young. > > [Givenchy Calf Leather Long Moto Coat - Bergdorf Goodman](http://www.bergdorfgoodman.com/Givenchy-Calf-Leather-Long-Moto-Coat/prod129870130/p.prod?ECID=BGDR __CRT&utm_medium=display%20remarketing&utm_source=BGDR__ CRT) I suggested that **Bricker** is the target market, but he hasn’t bitten. Yet. [Link.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=833105) ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/27 "2017-09-13T21:12:17Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Actually, that ridiculously ugly skirt (overskirt? wait, is she wearing that OVER her extra long shirt?) is only thirty bucks so you’re not going to impress any rich people with that. So that’s actually being sold for people to wear, huh? Looks to me like the rain barrel worn by the bankrupt Mr. Moneybags on the Monopoly card. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/28 "2017-09-13T22:45:46Z")
Why is the model headless? Embarrassment I reckon… ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/29 "2017-09-13T22:49:13Z")
I kinda want to know what TRF is too…anybody on board who really shops there? ---
**Author:** ![Heracles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heracles/32/487_2.png) [@Heracles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heracles)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/30 "2017-09-13T23:21:17Z")
TRF is a Zara sub-brand labeled “ungendered”. [Link](http://www.dazeddigital.com/fashion/article/30256/1/just-how-progressive-is-zara-s-new-ungendered-range) ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/31 "2017-09-14T00:34:03Z")
> [@Heracles](#): > > TRF is a Zara sub-brand labeled “ungendered”. [Link](http://www.dazeddigital.com/fashion/article/30256/1/just-how-progressive-is-zara-s-new-ungendered-range) Thanks. I guess the question is, does Zara know this? Because their “[What’s New](https://www.zara.com/us/en/trf/new-in-c840006.html?ts=1505349049929)” (just for a little bit of everything) section under TRF looks to be all stuff that few wouldn’t say “Yeah, that’s for women”. Still, good to know that I’m not excluded from owning that horrible straitjacket skirt. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/32 "2017-09-14T01:05:38Z")
“TRF” is an abbreviation for “treif,” a warning to observant Jewish _fashionistas_ that the apparel is made out of pig skin. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/33 "2017-09-14T01:07:42Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Still, good to know that I’m not excluded from owning that horrible straitjacket skirt. I hate to be the one to say it, but you really haven’t got the legs for it. ---
**Author:** ![stillownedbysetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@stillownedbysetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stillownedbysetters)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/34 "2017-09-14T01:35:45Z")
Here in the West, we would call this all-hat-no-cattle outfit. Strictly wannabe apparel. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/35 "2017-09-14T03:27:56Z")
I looked at that Zara stuff…you know I don’t know too much about fashion any more…the lil’wrekker keeps me filled in on what’s cool anymore ( not that I care too much)…Is it just me…but are those about the ugliest models you ever saw…why not at least wash your hair…and get some sleep…they looked ghastly…I don’t understand… ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/36 "2017-09-14T03:42:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Ever Wondered What TRF In Zara Stand For? > > . . .The name is an abbreviation of ‘trafaluc’, which after extensive research we can safely say is a made-up word. It’s marketing speak and nothing more [http://www.thedebrief.co.uk/style/fashion/trf-zara-meaning-20170567261](http://www.thedebrief.co.uk/style/fashion/trf-zara-meaning-20170567261) ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/37 "2017-09-14T04:01:45Z")
> [@stillownedbysetters](#): > > Here in the West, we would call this all-hat-no-cattle outfit. Strictly wannabe apparel. [You can buy the hat separately.](https://typeset-beta.imgix.net/rehost%2F2016%2F9%2F13%2F6dd8f3c6-bcc4-442b-a992-3cd85e8bbcf2.jpg)😃 ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/38 "2017-09-14T19:09:47Z")
Oh, I dunno. It wouldn’t look too out of place with a Hell’s Angels patch on back and 1 Percenter on the lapel. ::Snerk:: ---
**Author:** ![jkirkman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@jkirkman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jkirkman)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/39 "2017-09-14T22:07:10Z")
I want the coat this guy is wearing (about 14 seconds in): Without even checking, I know that I can't afford it. I can think of no place I go or of any weather conditions that I would ever wear it in. But I still want it. 🙂 (Hat optional, but also cool. As is the scarf.) ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2017, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238/40 "2017-09-15T11:20:28Z")
Thanks to this thread and the OP link, I’m now getting ads for that jacket on this site. Blech. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-target-market-for-this-piece-of-apparel/796238.md?page=3)