# What is the war movie (historical) you'd like to see made?

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**Created:** [May 15, 2021, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152 "2021-05-15T11:42:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152/101 "2021-05-19T17:34:22Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> bizarre love stories

Every time I see Uwe Boll in, I get down on my knees and pray.

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> [@gnarator](#):
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> You have three points of view–Norse, English, and Norman. I think it would be a very interesting story from Harold’s point of view, but one could easily have all three or William’s perspective instead.

Everybody’s read/seen _Game of Thrones_, so the audience would be used to the changing POV. Could easily be a multi-season HBO series. I’m sure decent writers could find some obscure but real characters to provide the requisite sex and exposition.

Hell, put Hastings in the middle of Season 2 and carry it on until the final season is a remake of _The Lion In Winter_!

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> The Great Siege of Malta

When I first saw this, I assumed it referred to the attempts by the Germans and Italians to subdue & possibly invade it during WW2-which would garner a vote from me.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
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This one is a fascinating story. I’m sure it would make a great movie, perfect vehicle for ham actors.

> [@Voltaire](#):
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> Nothing is better known than the siege of Malta.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152/105 "2021-05-19T17:55:45Z")

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Will there be a falcon in it?

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152/106 "2021-05-19T18:04:18Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Hell, put Hastings in the middle of Season 2 and carry it on until the final season is a remake of _The Lion In Winter_ !

You could make a good movie or series about the life of Eleanor of Aquitaine. She married both the King of France and the King of England (not at the same time). She went on a crusade, and had a long and eventful life.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152/107 "2021-05-19T20:02:55Z")

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Well, maybe, but not a gold jewel encrusted falcon statuette. Remember, that one was never real, it was merely the stuff dreams are made of.

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**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152/108 "2021-05-19T21:50:13Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Everybody’s read/seen _Game of Thrones_ , so the audience would be used to the changing POV. Could easily be a multi-season HBO series. I’m sure decent writers could find some obscure but real characters to provide the requisite sex and exposition.
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> Hell, put Hastings in the middle of Season 2 and carry it on until the final season is a remake of _The Lion In Winter_ !

> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> You could make a good movie or series about the life of Eleanor of Aquitaine. She married both the King of France and the King of England (not at the same time). She went on a crusade, and had a long and eventful life.

I would start with [Emma of Normandy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_of_Normandy)–she was from the ruling Norman family; married two kings, English and Norse; and fathered two kings, one of whom was Edward the Confessor.

You could keep going to _Lion in Winter_–you’d have the White Ship, the anarchy with King Stephen/Empress Matilda, and finally Henry II and Eleanor.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152/109 "2021-05-20T06:43:56Z")

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A Wendell Fertig biopic. Brad Pitt was attached but I think it’s in development hell.

When the Philippines was surrendered in 1942, he escaped and ran a guerilla campaign until it was liberated again. A lot of Gilligan’s Island type ingenuity involved. He didn’t get much recognition, possibly because MacArthur was a diva.

Also something with Harald Hardrada.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152/110 "2021-05-20T09:50:50Z")

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How about the [Siege of Syracuse](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Syracuse_(213%E2%80%93212_BC)) with Archimedes’s various machines to hold the Romans off (“Hang on lads, I’ve got an idea!”), and his eventual sad end? Could be an Oscar in it for someone.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152/111 "2021-05-20T13:02:54Z")

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I want to see a movie about Benjamin “The Beast” Butler, the politically brilliant but militarily hopeless civil war general who created the Union’s contraband policy and earned the undying hatred of the south when he occupied New Orleans- and declared that any woman assaulting a union soldier would be assumed to be a prostitute.

It’s a shame Dennis Franz is retired, he was the spitting image of the guy.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152/112 "2021-05-20T13:53:42Z")

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Oh, bravo!

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152/113 "2021-05-20T14:20:22Z")

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> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> Someone could easily make a great TV series.

That’s my sense about most of the ideas pitched. I haven’t commented as much as I might have in this thread because I think we’re past the point where audiences (myself included) will pay cinema prices to see what amounts to a glorified historical reenactment, and I personally am not interested in seeing yet another “war as backdrop for love triangle” travesty a la _Pearl Harbor_.

I can get on board with a Little Big Horn movie because I can envision how one might make that both a personal story with gripping characters and yet do justice to history. Because it was, at the end of the day, a fairly short/sharp action at its height, leaving plenty of runtime to delve more into the historical context through characters’ lived experiences as presented on screen.

In general, though, I think something longer than a 2-hour runtime is necessary to do even a single battle justice while still having enough other material to appeal to a wide audience. Unless of course you focus on a single small unit (something like _Come and See_ or 1993’s _Stalingrad_). In which case, are you really presenting The Battle of Whatever, or are you just doing a character study of some grunts down in the trenches/foxholes/MRAP/what-have-you?

Anyway, I want to respect the topic, because it is a good one, so for now I’m left scratching my head as to whether I think there is some way to properly depict a war or battle in medium of a 2-ish hour film.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152/114 "2021-05-20T19:01:04Z")

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> [@gnarator](#):
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> You could make an interesting miniseries on the events of 1066.

They did.

> **[1066: The Battle for Middle Earth (TV Mini Series 2009) ⭐ 6.3 | Action,...](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1329539/)**
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> 2h 30m

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152/115 "2021-05-20T19:03:02Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Yeah, so far, there are only two good movies about that war and they’re both called _Last of the Mohicans_ .

About that word- “good”… 😛

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Yeah, so far, there are only two good movies about that war and they’re both called _Last of the Mohicans_ .

There can be only one!

> **[Sweet Sioux - video Dailymotion](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4o5ys?start=435)**
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> Warner Brothers Merrie Melodies cartoon from 1937.

(click on video to get volume up)

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Because it was, at the end of the day, a fairly short/sharp action at its height, leaving plenty of runtime to delve more into the historical context through characters’ lived experiences as presented on screen.

I actually find the night-long siege of Reno’s forces to be more interesting than the short order slaughter of Custer’s immediate command.

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152/118 "2021-05-20T20:49:31Z")

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Never seen it. Any good?  
The cast doesn’t list anyone playing the major historical figures…

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**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-war-movie-historical-youd-like-to-see-made/942152/119 "2021-05-20T22:28:04Z")

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It was as authentic as possible. More of a docudrama.

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> [@gnarator](#):
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> The cast doesn’t list anyone playing the major historical figures…

It’s not about them.

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