# What is the WORST immediate sequel to a great film? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [May 11, 2025, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246 "2025-05-11T07:15:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/201 "2025-07-09T18:23:24Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Wonder Woman 1984 also deserves a mention. Wonder Woman is a really fun movie. I can NOT believe the sequel was so terrible Another terrible retro superhero movie, Thor: love and thunder. Thor _Ragnarok_ was such a pleasant surprise for me; genuinely funny, but also with adventure, peril and character arcs. So I was really looking forward to the sequel but spent almost the whole runtime cringing. Every joke fell flat and suddenly the story required exposition dumps and other bad writing. I know this is a slightly controversial one, but I wouldn’t bring it up if I didn’t think it was up there with matrix 2 and the like for sheer badness. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/202 "2025-07-10T05:56:11Z")
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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/203 "2025-07-10T12:47:44Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > _The Bad News Bears_ showcased Oscar winner Walter Matthau and Oscar winner Tatum O’Neal in a memorable and enjoyable movie, and the sequel exists. I saw Bad News Bears when I was a kid when it first came out and I thought it was hilarious. I watched it again about 40 years later, and hoo boy it did _not_ age well. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/204 "2025-07-10T12:54:21Z")
While I think that the worst ones have already been named, here are some other awful sequels: **Superman II** – don’t fire the excellent director of your original film and have his replacement re-shoot most of the film. Also, don’t get the wife of your hero’s mentor from the first film to take the place of the mentor in the second film because the actor was asking for too much money – it looks cheap. If you want to get an idea of what the film could have looked like, get **superman II: The Richard Donner Cut** **Psycho II** – alright, so they didn’t have to use Robert Bloch’s book _Psycho II_ as the basis for the film, but they should at least have tried to make the film plausible. Too many people dressed up at Mrs. Bats and went sneaking down the back stairs in this pitiful sequel, which came 23 years (!) after the original. But the worst part is that lead to **Psycho III** three years later and **Psycho IV** in 1990 – but only on TV. I haven’t seen it, but **Vengeance of She** (1968), the sequel to the Ursula Andress version of **She** received some abomminably bad comments and reviews: > [@](#): > > Grotesquely unconvincing melodrama, inspired in name only by Rider Haggard, and starring a young Czech actress who presents a busty front to all eventualities but is otherwise required to be almost entirely somnambulistic. The dialogue is literally unspeakable, and the cast mainly to be pitied as they labour through a morass of turgid situations. What exactly the vengeance of She has to do with it all never becomes quite clear. > [@](#): > > Olinka wasn’t an actress. I don’t know what she was. Perhaps she was a model. I figured she was making it with somebody behind the scenes. I wonder whatever became of her. She totally disappeared. Olinka had a physical resemblance to Ursula, except that Ursula could act a bit. Olinka’s knowledge of screen craft was somewhat limited. It was impossible to work with her. I realised, ‘Not a great deal between the ears here.’ But I bit my tongue and thought of the paycheck. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/205 "2025-07-10T13:26:50Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > But the worst part is that lead to **Psycho III** three years later and **Psycho IV** in 1990 – but only on TV. Has anyone seen these? Psycho 2 was fun. I’ve heard nothing positive about the next two. Imagine of Oz Perkins directed a new movie version of Psycho in his style. Lame idea, but it would be…very interesting. Then again, Longlegs could have almost been called “Psycho” and had no connection. ---
**Author:** ![Dropo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dropo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dropo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2025, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/206 "2025-07-10T18:37:26Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > I haven’t seen it, but **Vengeance of She** (1968), the sequel to the Ursula Andress version of **She** received some abomminably bad comments and reviews: I have seen _The Vengeance of She_ - though not recently - and recall it being not so bad (especially compared to _She_). Ms. Berova isn’t called on to do much and consequently…doesn’t do much, but at least she doesn’t ruin the film. From certain angles, she more or less resembles Ursula Andress, enough reason (imo) to watch it once. The real detriment is John Richardson as Killikrates. He is godawful, wooden and dubbed (as he was in _She_), sucking all the life out of the movie. Co-starring in his early films with Barbara Steele, Raquel Welch, Ursula Andress and Ms. Berova makes him one lucky dude, but it is clear he was only meant to be a prop next to them. Unfortunately, he tried to be more. He is definitely on my list of the fifty worst actors ever. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/207 "2025-07-29T01:51:05Z")
> [@Neidhart](#): > > Home Alone 2. They just Xeroxed the script for the first movie and added a sickeningly glurgy subplot about a kindly old man who owns a huge toystore in Manhattan. (Suspension of disbelief goes kaboom.) It also has a cameo by non-kindly old man Donald Trump, which should make it a strong candidate for thread winner. Anyone else seen Home Alone 3, 4, or 5? They’re all pretty much the same movie, except with different kids in the lead role. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246.md?page=10)