# What is the WORST immediate sequel to a great film?

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**Created:** [May 11, 2025, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246 "2025-05-11T07:15:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dropo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Dropo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dropo)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/161 "2025-05-13T17:55:34Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> What’s your opinion of **Curse of the Fly** from 1965?

_Curse of the Fly_ concerns the further misadventures of the Delambre family and their matter teleportation experiments. The movie opens brilliantly with a hot babe (Carole Gray) in her underwear breaking out of the loony bin. She marries a Delambre and gradually discovers the nature of the experiments…and the horrible mutants they produce. Although better make-up would have improved the mutant scenes significantly, they are still pretty creepy (I recall some of them being shot on negative film stock). The ending is also effective.

While not as well-known or iconic as _The Fly_ - there are no humanoid flies in the flick - _Curse of the Fly_ also lacks much of the cheesiness of the earlier films. On its own, I would call it an above-average horror story, well worth checking out.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/162 "2025-05-13T18:01:26Z")

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Were they mutations? I had thought that they were scars from radiation burns. But I could be wrong. I only saw it once, probably when I was in elementary school or junior high. I don’t remember loving it or hating it, but I did find it intriguing.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2025, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/163 "2025-05-13T18:12:40Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> Were they mutations?

“Deformities” or “botched experiments” might be better terms.

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I saw the Lost World at a cheap movie theatre on a Tuesday night. I think that I paid less than $2 to see it. To this day, I still feel that I overpaid to see that terrible film.

The scene where Jeff Goldblum’s daughter does her gymnastics routine, on the conveniently spaced poles, took me completely out of the film.

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> [@Scoobysnax](#):
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> The scene where Jeff Goldblum’s daughter does her gymnastics routine, on the conveniently spaced poles, took me completely out of the film.

That’s honestly the silly scene that stands out for me too, it was some real _Gymkata_ $#!&.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/166 "2025-05-14T19:35:57Z")

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THANK YOU.

That scene is literally all I picture when I think of that movie.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/167 "2025-05-14T19:43:46Z")

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When I first saw _Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure_ during my early teen years, I have to admit that my friends and I loved it. Maybe I thought I was too cool by the time _Big Top Pee-Wee_ came along, but all I could think about when I saw it was how lame it was.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/168 "2025-05-15T00:04:07Z")

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No, the first one is fun. Big Top Pee Wee _was_ lame.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/169 "2025-05-15T00:07:15Z")

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I didn’t “get” the original “2001” either. I tried, I swear. But I just didn’t.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/170 "2025-05-15T02:40:38Z")

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Poltergeist II was so bad that the only thing that survived was the “they’re baaaaack” catchphrase.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/171 "2025-05-15T02:52:03Z")

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Hell, nobody does, the 1st time you see it at least. I saw it as a 12year old in 1971 when “2001: A Space Odyssey” played at our suburban Ohio theater. It had one of those big old style screens, which are 4sure the best way for tripping on the psychedelic Stargate sequence because I sure as hell didn’t understand what was going on in this movie’s storyline either. Then a couple years later I found a copy of Arthur C. Clarke’s novelization of the film & reading that was the key; he and Stanley Kubrick collaborated on the screenplay but it was based on Clarke’s sci-fi short story "The Sentinel’', referring the mysterious obelisk found on the moon. In Clarke’s novel, what is happening in the Stargate sequence, Bowman in the fancy room and the Starchild of the finale are all specifically explained. Find a copy at your local library, it’s a very well-written and eye-opening book 📖 🧐

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/172 "2025-05-15T05:17:06Z")

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> [@zbuzz](#):
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> Poltergeist II was so bad that the only thing that survived was the “they’re baaaaack” catchphrase.

I have to disagree. I’m not saying it’s a great movie or even close to being as good as the first. But any horror movie that has a scene as creepy and disturbing as this isn’t a bad movie. In my opinion one of the most effective horror scenes ever filmed.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0EhwcUzVH4U/maxresdefault.jpg "POLTERGEIST II: THE OTHER SIDE (1986) | "You’re Going to Die In There!" | MGM") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EhwcUzVH4U)

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> A lot of great movies in the '70s had really crappy sequels that are little remembered today.

_The Bad News Bears_ showcased Oscar winner Walter Matthau and Oscar winner Tatum O’Neal in a memorable and enjoyable movie, and the sequel exists.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/174 "2025-05-15T12:37:22Z")

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100% agreement from me, but I enjoy the Rifftrax commentary when I watch it. It’s a holiday tradition for me (and no one else).

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2025, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-the-worst-immediate-sequel-to-a-great-film/1018246/175 "2025-05-15T13:09:48Z")

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I don’t think that Sam Raimi’s **Darkman** qualifies as a “great” film, but it was a fun, interesting excursion into comic book/superhero -type stuff made by Raimi long before he made his _Spiderman_ films. It starred Liam Neeson as the title character.

They made two direct-to-video sequels, **Darkman II : The Return of Durant** and **Darkman III: Die, Darkman, Die!**. Neither had Raimi or Neeson, and the fact that they both went strat to video tells you something about their quality. Arnold Vosloo (who would go on to play The Mummy in Stephen Sommers’ first two Mummy films or Universal) took over for Liam Neeson (well, under those bandages, it could’ve been anybody).

Larry Drake, who played the heavy in the original, returned for the sequels, although his character Durant had been pretty clearly killed in the original. That’s the kind of thing that happens in second-rate sequels.

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I’m not sure exactly how bad the _Rocky Horror_ sequel, **Shock Treatment** was because it is so forgettable. I know I saw it, but I can’t remember a single thing about it; not even a song.

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> **The Star Wars Holiday Special**

Not sure if that actually qualifies as a sequel, but if it does I’d say Thread Winner.

It had Bea Arthur and she was singing for gawd sake!

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> It had Bea Arthur and she was singing for gawd sake!

It had Chewbacca’s father watching holographic porn.

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> [@Loach](#):
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> It had Chewbacca’s father watching holographic porn.

It had Chewbacca’s father watching _Diahann Carroll_ performing holographic porn. 😮

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> Not sure if that actually qualifies as a sequel, but if it does I’d say Thread Winner.

I still think Highlander 2 might be _worse_.

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