# What is this men's facial hair style called?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 27, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928 "2011-04-27T18:44:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928/61 "2011-04-29T02:39:52Z")

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So, what is so attractive about that look?

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**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928/62 "2011-04-29T04:47:57Z")

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I don’t know what it’s called either, but it’s a number two setting on my husband’s beard trimmer.

Mmm…and it’s nice. So nice.

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**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928/63 "2011-04-29T04:51:29Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> Somebody has a crush!
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> The baseball bat turns me off, as does the baby, kind of. But this picture made my mouth go dry:
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> [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/PapSett/Ace/ace-young-grease-broadway-show-01.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/PapSett/Ace/ace-young-grease-broadway-show-01.jpg)
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> But mostly, yes, a little too pretty. I’m not sure what it is, exactly, but he could stand just a tiny bit more manliness. But that may come with age…

LOL… sad. I’m literally old enough to be his mama. He’ll be 31 in November, I’ll be 51 in June. Don’t hurt none to look, tho… 😃

He’s just a genuinely nice, sweet guy. I thouhgt he was very cute when he was on Idol, but after I met him and got to know him a little, looks became secondary. Honest. I just enjoy him for who he is, but still do find his looks dazzling.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928/64 "2011-04-29T05:07:07Z")

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Interesting fact I didn’t know.

A beard without sideburns and **without moustache** is a _goatee_.

A similar beard **with moustache** is a _van dyke_.

I think these definitions are going to shift, if they haven’t already, to what people think they mean, rather than what they historically mean.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928/65 "2011-04-29T14:48:06Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Interesting fact I didn’t know.
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> A beard without sideburns and **without moustache** is a _goatee_.
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> A similar beard **with moustache** is a _van dyke_.
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> I think these definitions are going to shift, if they haven’t already, to what people think they mean, rather than what they historically mean.

I agree. I always thought the van dyke was just a stodgy old name for a goatee. I also associeated it with that guy on Mary Poppins, but that’s neither here nor there.

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**Author:** ![Inthewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Inthewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inthewater)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928/66 "2011-04-29T16:50:34Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I agree. I always thought the van dyke was just a stodgy old name for a goatee. I also associeated it with that guy on Mary Poppins, but that’s neither here nor there.

I’ve always heard what we commonly call a “goatee” these days (not the true definition of only chin hair) is also called a “circle beard”.

At least, around these parts.

Also, I believe a true Van Dyke has separation between the mustache and the goatee.

To the OP, the last picture that you mention enjoying, could it be the fact that it is Andy Whitfield, and not so much about the beard?

I am a dude, but that man is freakin handsome.

Hopefully he will whip that cancer crap in the ass and get back to acting.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928/67 "2011-04-29T17:18:55Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Interesting fact I didn’t know.
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> A beard without sideburns and **without moustache** is a _goatee_.
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> A similar beard **with moustache** is a _van dyke_…

> [@Inthewater](#):
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> I’ve always heard what we commonly call a “goatee” these days (not the true definition of only chin hair) is also called a “circle beard”.
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> At least, around these parts.
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> Also, I believe a true Van Dyke has separation between the mustache and the goatee…

Now that’s interesting. A goatee being only a tuft of chin hair makes a lot more sense. Goats have a tuft of chin hair. On the other hand, I always imagined a Van Dyke as being _pointed_, and maybe with the separation between chin-beard and moustache that **Inthewater** mentioned. Which leaves the common style these days, **Inthewater** ’s ‘circle beard’, as something else.

I think I’ll start calling them ‘circle beards’. 🙂

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**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928/68 "2011-04-29T17:35:04Z")

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Well, according to Calvin, it’s the “[Don Johnson fuzzy look](http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1990/06/03).”

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928/69 "2011-04-29T17:42:06Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> Now that’s interesting. A goatee being only a tuft of chin hair makes a lot more sense. Goats have a tuft of chin hair. On the other hand, I always imagined a Van Dyke as being _pointed_, and maybe with the separation between chin-beard and moustache that **Inthewater** mentioned. Which leaves the common style these days, **Inthewater** ’s ‘circle beard’, as something else.
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> I think I’ll start calling them ‘circle beards’. 🙂

So long as it’s not that nasty chin-strap, jawline only Sharpie-looking garbage. Honestly, why don’t you just draw on your face and save your follicles the effort? Same goes for those stripper-thin eyebrows, ladies.

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**Author:** ![Inthewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Inthewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inthewater)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928/70 "2011-04-29T19:04:30Z")

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> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#):
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> So long as it’s not that nasty chin-strap, jawline only Sharpie-looking garbage. Honestly, why don’t you just draw on your face and save your follicles the effort? Same goes for those stripper-thin eyebrows, ladies.

Who-da-hadda?

A circle beard is what most “beard affectionados” will call what most people these days just call a “goatee”.

Grow a full beard, then chop off the cheek hair. Leaving a “circle of beard” afterwards.

Not sure what you are talking about, but definitely NOT what we are talking about.

Sounds like over grooming to me.

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**Author:** ![Inthewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Inthewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inthewater)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928/71 "2011-04-29T19:07:15Z")

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> **[beard styles: goatee and mustache](https://www.beards.org/goatee_mustache.php)**
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> about the goatee and mustache The goatee and mustache combination is one of the most popular beard styles. It is a good choice for those with good growth in the mustache and chin areas but with wea…

This is what most people I know call a “goatee”.

> **[beard styles: goatee](https://www.beards.org/goatee.php)**
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> about the goatee The goatee is essentially the facial hair on the chin below the lower lip. The width of the goatee typically is about the same as the width of the mouth. growing a goatee Allow the…

This is actually what a goatee is supposed to be.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928/72 "2011-04-30T00:54:31Z")

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I think I heard somebody call it “[a George Michael](http://www.google.com/search?q=The+george+Michael&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1024&bih=578)”, once.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928/73 "2011-04-30T01:17:15Z")

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> [@Inthewater](#):
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> Also, I believe a true Van Dyke has separation between the mustache and the goatee.

When I sported it, I did have the separation, so you may be right. But I’m not 100% certain on that distinction.

The pointiness is where people get confused, I think, because that’s how the painter Van Dyck styled his, but I am pretty sure that’s not actually required to call it a Van Dyke.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-mens-facial-hair-style-called/579928/74 "2011-04-30T08:12:52Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> When it’s not a beard, but fuzz all over the face. I hate the word fuzz. It’s like a 5 o’clock shadow but maybe 3 or 4 5’oclock shadows in a row, like the man didn’t shave for a few days. Let me see if I can find some pics:
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> [Picture 1](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://tv.edogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/hugh-jackman.jpg&imgrefurl=http://tv.edogo.com/index.php/hugh-jackman-pulls-out-of-steven-soderbergh-musical/&usg=__efoTkDnYLUGHCT_vep_jM85cXag=&h=275&w=370&sz=18&hl=en&start=0&sig2=u8zlUYrGYRiTecFaQJZCEQ&zoom=1&tbnid=-_RG2096KUbaEM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=157&ei=0GK4Te68HIrcgQfhk-xM&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhugh%2Bjackman%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1004%26bih%3D583%26tbm%3Disch0%2C207&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=374&vpy=195&dur=625&hovh=193&hovw=260&tx=146&ty=92&page=1&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:16,s:0&biw=1004&bih=583)  
> [Picture 2](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images.askmen.com/fashion/trends/pictures/16a_fashion_men.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.askmen.com/fashion/trends/16_fashion_men.html&usg=__niCoQPdOLEAeV-Wt0ssI0HDewcM=&h=142&w=100&sz=5&hl=en&start=37&sig2=ffOHhMYFkNDCBYPZ6jW2Wg&zoom=1&tbnid=NUZK_-wzRMXWTM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=80&ei=pending&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmen%2Bwith%2Bfacial%2Bhair%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1020%26bih%3D583%26tbm%3Disch0%2C787&um=1&itbs=1&biw=1020&bih=583&iact=rc&dur=391&page=3&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:37&tx=55&ty=59)  
> [Picture 3](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jFbqtsH14W8/SKJTAIrIMYI/AAAAAAAAB1o/cQaRqwyzVY4/s400/Josh%2BHolloway.jpg&imgrefurl=http://jeannytsy.blogspot.com/2008/08/celeb-men-of-style.html&usg=__EpyeIPvgREQ0ty-D5XHszT6oglc=&h=400&w=400&sz=43&hl=en&start=78&sig2=u_W_NYUtXJQ3XZwvLuYYmw&zoom=1&tbnid=Cg2y1cBam13i3M:&tbnh=125&tbnw=125&ei=fmO4TefJOuja0QHI3sHwDA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmen%2Bwith%2Bfacial%2Bhair%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1020%26bih%3D583%26tbm%3Disch0%2C1818&um=1&itbs=1&biw=1020&bih=583&iact=rc&dur=610&page=5&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:78&tx=91&ty=90)  
> [Picture 4](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Spartacus-Andy-Whitfield-1-788789.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.sodahead.com/fun/what-do-you-think-of-beards-on-men-these-days/question-1462563/&usg=__SgM-SKgz_Ke0vMnHJf1UY6BpUdQ=&h=400&w=267&sz=22&hl=en&start=96&sig2=4rWijvgrl7e3DeG6en4WvQ&zoom=1&tbnid=6g8iBiABCNXh3M:&tbnh=187&tbnw=125&ei=kmO4Taq5D-Ly0gHZuqXrDw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmen%2Bwith%2Bfacial%2Bhair%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1020%26bih%3D583%26site%3Dsearch%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=187&page=6&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:96&tx=54&ty=94)
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> That last one is probably closest to what I mean.
> 
> I need to know because I cannot stand beards, but this look makes me weak in the knees, and I am dying to know what it’s called.

Those range from ‘designer stubble’ to light beards

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