# What is this tune?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 28, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175 "2012-09-28T19:15:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/1 "2012-09-28T19:15:01Z")

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Surely someone must remember this.

Played on a piano, all eighth notes. Every C is middle C except for the last three, which are an octave below.

C|ACGCECDC|CCC

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/2 "2012-09-28T19:52:05Z")

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Moving over to CS for you.

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/3 "2012-09-28T19:57:24Z")

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A above middle C or below? 😕

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/4 "2012-09-28T20:21:19Z")

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Thanks **Idle Thoughts**.

> [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#):
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> A above middle C or below? 😕

The whole thing is a descending line below middle C.

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/5 "2012-09-28T20:29:29Z")

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Gah, it’s the ending bit to a children’s song, like a nursery rhyme song! Cannot dig it out…

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/6 "2012-09-28T20:39:42Z")

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Ok, the one I am thinking of starts at Middle C, goes above then below for A and G, then back to Middle C and above and down again.

ECDClowAClowG|CECDClowAClowGC|lowAClowGClowElowD|(low)CCC

Try **[here](http://www.virtualpiano.net/)**? Thinking back I think that might have been just a beginner’s piano exercise. For some reason though I picture cartoon characters whiling away time bored… I think it’s one they made you play on one hand while the other played Swanee River, at that! (To teach syncopation, I think?)

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/7 "2012-09-28T20:47:14Z")

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I’m thinking it’s an exercise too. I kind of associate it with my brother taking lessons as a kid.

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/8 "2012-09-28T20:55:42Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> I’m thinking it’s an exercise too. I kind of associate it with my brother taking lessons as a kid.

Eventually he played it as fast as he could?

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/9 "2012-09-28T20:59:45Z")

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> [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#):
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> Eventually he played it as fast as he could?

That I don’t remember.

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/10 "2012-09-28T21:03:49Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> That I don’t remember.

Go try that site? They have a key assist feature, press ctrl to make the notes linger some. You can mouseclick to get the notes, Middle C is the third C from the left, it corresponds to “T” on the keyboard. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/11 "2012-09-28T21:48:45Z")

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Ok, using the keyboard cheat thing here’s the song I remember that had those notes for an ending.

(t?)utyt|tetw|tutyt|etwt|utyt|etwt|t0t9t888

Try that and see if it is what you mean? The one I remember was supposed to be played getting a little faster with emphasis on the last three notes. Sometimes it started with a Middle C, but not always

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/12 "2012-09-28T21:54:04Z")

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Ok, I misremembered, this song was in the same section of the song they combined with Swanee River to teach syncopation. But it was Humoresque + Swannee River for that! Gah! Remembering more and more about that book! Wish I still had it…

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**Author:** ![Silvorange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Silvorange](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silvorange)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/13 "2012-09-28T21:57:45Z")

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That’s one of those things that lots of kids play when they can get their mitts on a piano. You play it on the black keys, starting with F# (or the Bflat above that, since you are starting with what I consider to be the second note).

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/14 "2012-09-28T22:02:34Z")

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Also I am probably throwing in ornamental notes, I remember it can be simpler. I think it could end t89000 **Silvorange** , but it does have some kind of name or I remember at least that the lesson did! ☹

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/15 "2012-09-28T22:05:13Z")

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> [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#):
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> Ok, using the keyboard cheat thing here’s the song I remember that had those notes for an ending.
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> (t?)utyt|tetw|tutyt|etwt|utyt|etwt|t0t9t888
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> Try that and see if it is what you mean? The one I remember was supposed to be played getting a little faster with emphasis on the last three notes. Sometimes it started with a Middle C, but not always

Gah! Ok, correction!

tutyt|etwt|utyt|etw|tutyt|etwt|0t9t888

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/16 "2012-09-28T22:51:07Z")

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> [@Silvorange](#):
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> That’s one of those things that lots of kids play when they can get their mitts on a piano. You play it on the black keys, starting with F# (or the Bflat above that, since you are starting with what I consider to be the second note).

And the lyrics are the nursery rhyme “Peter, Peter, pumpkin eater”

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-this-tune/636175/17 "2012-09-29T17:28:31Z")

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It is, in fact, an excerpt from _Peter, Peter, Pumpkin Eater_. Transposed into the key of C (the all black keys version is F#), and sung with the lyrics _“pumpkin shell and there he kept her very well.”_

The entire song would go:  
**E** C **D** C | _A_C_G_C  
**E** C **D** C | _A_C_G_C  
**E** C **D** C | _A_C_G_C  
_E_C_D_C _CCC_

Where the **bolded** letters are in the octave above Middle C, and the _italicized_ ones are the octave below.
