My definition of woke

[DocCathode]

So, you have decided to give definition. You have stated

@DemonTree

I’ve put this post in IMHO because this is my opinion.

I take it you did this so you would not have to provide cites for any of the claims made in your OP.

You say that the “Social Justice movement” began fifty years after the Civil Rights movement. Do you have a cite for that? What differentiates the Social Justice movement from the Civil Rights movement?

You have also really poisoned the well.

@DemonTree

To explain lingering differences in outcomes, the concept of privilege was expanded from its original meaning of being rich or well connected, to a whole slew of other potential advantages/lack of disadvantages.

Cite? And again, well poisoning?

@DemonTree

Later(?) was added the idea of systemic racism, where laws, customs, institutions etc can treat people differently depending on race without any of the people involved personally having prejudice.

When exactly? If you cannot say that, when roughly? and can you provide a cite for that?

@DemonTree

Other explanations for inequality like innate (even for men vs women) or cultural differences between groups became taboo, despite the existence of minority groups like Asians and Jews who don’t fit the paradigm above since they still suffer some prejudice, and nevertheless are in many ways more successful than the presumably-privileged majority.

Cite? And again well poisoning

@DemonTree

In order to achieve the desired equal outcomes between groups, progressives abandoned an ideal that used to be widely held: treating people according to the content of their character rather than superficial traits like race and sex

Cite? And once more, well poisoning

@DemonTree

If other people think I’ve missed something, they can add it, but this movement, this set of associated ideas is what I am referring to when I say ‘woke’ or talk about modern progressivism.

Normally, dragging issues in from another thread in to a new one is forbidden. However,

@DemonTree

People keep bugging me to define what ‘woke’ means, but that’s not an easy task

I cannot speak for other posters. I did not ‘bug’ you. I asked politely. I even used the word “please”. You failed to respond. I continued to ask, without hostlity for a cite. You responded with hostility and cursing (though you did censor the word). You said that I should ‘ask politely’. I produced a cite showing that I had asked politely. You again failed to respond. Then, you started this thead.

Is there a reason that when you finally respond with a definition, you chose to do so by starting a new thread in IMHO rather than just posting your definition of “woke” in the original GD thread?

Is it Time to Tone Down the Wokeness, Especially about the Past?

Try asking nicely. I’m f****** tired of getting multiple hostile responses and demands every time I post, and you’re asking me to do a lot of work here just to get more of the same. I’m not getting paid for this.

ETA

Just in case I have erred and violated board rules, I have reported my post to the moderators.