# What is wrong with these women around me?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2016, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131 "2016-04-25T22:56:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/41 "2016-04-26T16:17:33Z")

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> [@phreak9](#):
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> -2 are stay at home moms

You do realise that being a SAHM isn’t a 9 to 5 job, don’t you? They’re ‘on’ 7 days a week.

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> In their defense their kids are fun, polite, and hilarious

Then whatever they’re doing, they’re doing it right.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/42 "2016-04-26T16:19:43Z")

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> [@phreak9](#):
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> Im not sexist I think I just look at it from a desired/expectation perspective and I feel let down or AHHHHHH!!! […] I am using bias but I dont date men and I dont expect the same things from them.

In other words, you’re viewing general social phenomena (tough economy driving disability claims, gender expectations about childcare, etc.) through the lens of your personal dating quest. You don’t care about what’s actually happening in society, you’re just annoyed at the effects it’s having on the commodity (i.e., women) that you’re trying to shop for. Got it.

> [@phreak9](#):
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> I need to get a whole different perspective toward dating

Not sure that would help, at this point.

> [@phreak9](#):
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> all you need is a booty call or two to get you by

Why even bother with that? Soon those long-awaited personal sexbots will start to be manufactured, and you won’t have to deal with actual women ever again. And they won’t have to deal with you. So, win-win!

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/43 "2016-04-26T16:52:24Z")

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I know people like this, both men and women, some are freeloaders taking advantage of the system, the goodwill of friends and family, or both. Other times, people LOOK like they’re freeloaders but they’re down on their luck, getting some help, and they’re working hard to get back on their feet. Or sometimes they have circumstances that aren’t necessarily clear to anyone not privy to their situations. For example, you mention people on disability, sometimes a disability isn’t obvious, and sometimes people are milking it.

As others said, the common denominator here is YOU. YOU get to choose who you associate with, and if you feel like you’re surrounded by freeloaders, change it. And you have to know that your situation isn’t representative because if half of all women were unemployed, even if every single man was, unemployment would be roughly 25%, and it’s no where near that.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/44 "2016-04-26T17:49:22Z")

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**phreak9** , they are the way they are because they are very depressed. There are very depressed because, as you have already noted, they are around you. You have that effect on people.

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**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/45 "2016-04-26T18:29:05Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> **phreak9** , they are the way they are because they are very depressed. There are very depressed because, as you have already noted, they are around you. You have that effect on people.

And the award for “Clumsiest Ad Hominen Attack Today” goes to…

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/46 "2016-04-26T19:12:37Z")

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Move out of Baltimore, **phreak9**.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/47 "2016-04-26T19:33:28Z")

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> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#):
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> And the award for “Clumsiest Ad Hominen Attack Today” goes to…

**Whiskey Dickens**!

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**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/48 "2016-04-26T20:21:55Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> **Whiskey Dickens**!

😕

You think my post was an ad hominem attack?

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/49 "2016-04-26T20:35:00Z")

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> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#):
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> 😕
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> You think my post was an ad hominem attack?

It certainly came out of left field. Do you really think Muffin interrupted a substantive debate with a personal attack on the OP?

If so, please summarize your position with regard to that perennial question: why are women such skanks?

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/50 "2016-04-26T20:56:21Z")

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Maybe the OP should stop hanging out behind abortion clinics looking to meet loose women.

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**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/51 "2016-04-26T23:17:12Z")

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> [@Emiliana](#):
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> It certainly came out of left field. Do you really think Muffin interrupted a substantive debate with a personal attack on the OP?
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> If so, please summarize your position with regard to that perennial question: why are women such skanks?

Ad hominem = came out of left field. Thanks, Crayons.

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/52 "2016-04-26T23:21:10Z")

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> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#):
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> Ad hominem = came out of left field. Thanks, Crayons.

Have a bon bon.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/53 "2016-04-26T23:40:20Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Dog carcass in alley this morning, tire tread on burst stomach. This city is afraid of me. I have seen it’s true face. The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout “Save us!”…
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> …and I’ll look down, and whisper “no.”
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> They had a choice, all of them. They could have followed in the footsteps of good men like my father, or President Truman. Decent men, who believed in a day’s work for a day’s pay. Instead the followed the droppings of lechers and Communists and didn’t realize that the trail led over a precipice until it was too late. Don’t tell me they didn’t have a choice.
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> Now the whole world stands on the brink, staring down into bloody hell, all those liberals and intellectuals and smooth-talkers… and all of a sudden, nobody can think of anything to say.

- **phreak9** age 15 3/4

Oh, hold on, _twice_ that age?

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**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/54 "2016-04-27T07:44:42Z")

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Why are women who reproduce and care for their own offspring considered “losers”? This reminds me of a thread I read here one time that said only very poor people don’t completely outsource child rearing and that having servants was a requirement for being considered middle-class.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/55 "2016-04-27T16:17:39Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I’m gonna paraphrase my late father (who, with my mother, successfully raised ten non-sociopaths), and what he said when one of his offspring came to him complaining that another offspring was “getting” more good stuff than he or she “deserved”:
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> _ **phreak9** needs to worry about **phreak9**._

> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#):
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> Which is the kind of thing parents tell their kids when they don’t have the time or energy to deal with the issue.
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> Life in general isn’t fair, but you can expect a certain amount of fairness from your own immediate family, ferchrissakes.

In hindsight, we pretty much got it (see the parenthetical about ten non-sociopaths [out of TEN]), but thanks for your concern. 🙂

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/56 "2016-04-27T18:11:36Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> [out of TEN]

😃

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/57 "2016-04-27T19:13:05Z")

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😛

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**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/58 "2016-04-28T15:31:11Z")

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Pro tip: Whenever you say “What is wrong with these \* around me?” the problem is always you and it is never the fault of “\*”.

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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/59 "2016-04-28T22:45:22Z")

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What is wrong with all these white supremacists around me?

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2016, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-these-women-around-me/753131/60 "2016-04-29T13:25:31Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> What is wrong with all these white supremacists around me?

Not one of them can carry a tune for their life.

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