# What is your nootropic stack?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 23, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390 "2018-02-23T04:03:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![mandala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mandala/32/95_2.png) [@mandala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mandala)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/1 "2018-02-23T04:03:39Z")

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Do you have a nootropic stack that you take regularly? How long have you been taking it, and how has it helped you? Has it harmed you?

I am not sure if herbs like St John’s Wort count as nootropics… but for the purposes of this thread let’s assume they are.

I was taken in by all the tall talk about Piracetam, and took it for a while, years ago. I am neither smarter nor wiser, just older. Side-effect, maybe? I also took prescription Modafinil; now this is an effective drug. It made me awake-r and feeling good, but eventually, I noticed it exacerbates tic-like sensations and worsens (somehow) my chronic neck pain. So no more Modafinil for me.

A month back, with some extra cash to blow, and serious competition at the workplace, I came back to Piracetam 800mg + Citicoline 500mg per day, plus one capsule SJW for kicks. I am feeling no smarter (or even any different) yet, but maybe it is too soon.

I have not tried the more powerful ones like Aniracetam, PhenylGABA etc. Anybody with experience is welcome to weigh in. TIA.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/2 "2018-02-23T04:09:35Z")

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In college I liked the combo of bacopa, piracetam and DMAE. However it wore off if I took it everyday. But for short bursts like studying sessions it was useful.

Right now I take vitamin D, Magnesium, fish oil and a few other things for various forms of mental and physical health.

I used to really like adrafinil. I could take 150mg on a night where I only got 2 hours sleep and I’d function fine. Ever since Olmifon stopped making it, the market is flooded with garbage that doesn’t work. I can get modafinil but never tried it instead.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/3 "2018-02-23T04:13:30Z")

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My only nootropic is SDMB. By ingesting it regularly I am able to learn things I did not know, like the word “nootropic.”

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/4 "2018-02-23T04:22:59Z")

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Omg, me too!^^^

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/5 "2018-02-23T04:28:01Z")

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If you lop off the “n”, you get “ootropic”, which could mean “moving egg”, which sounds a little creepy.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/6 "2018-02-23T07:05:10Z")

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Or ticklish!

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**Author:** ![edwardcoast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cab0a1/32.png) [@edwardcoast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwardcoast)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/7 "2018-02-23T08:56:04Z")

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A good night’s sleep always worked for me.

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**Author:** ![mandala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mandala/32/95_2.png) [@mandala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mandala)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/8 "2018-02-23T19:05:48Z")

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> [@edwardcoast](#):
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> A good night’s sleep always worked for me.

And which pill do you take for sleep? 😃

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**Author:** ![mandala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mandala/32/95_2.png) [@mandala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mandala)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/9 "2018-02-23T19:10:22Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> In college I liked the combo of bacopa, piracetam and DMAE. However it wore off if I took it everyday. But for short bursts like studying sessions it was useful.
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> Right now I take vitamin D, Magnesium, fish oil and a few other things for various forms of mental and physical health.
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> I used to really like adrafinil. I could take 150mg on a night where I only got 2 hours sleep and I’d function fine. Ever since Olmifon stopped making it, the market is flooded with garbage that doesn’t work. I can get modafinil but never tried it instead.

Years back I’d gotten myself the garbage Adrafinil and naturally it didn’t work and I threw it away very shortly. Legit Modafinil is awesome, but it exacerbated my OCD/tic-like symptoms and made my mind race, instead of focusing it down. YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/10 "2018-02-23T19:17:56Z")

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I don’t know why finding legit adrafinil is so hard. I’ve tried several brands.

Either the market is full of fakes, or Olmifon was spiking their adrafinil with something else.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/11 "2018-02-23T19:31:12Z")

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I like the Nootropic Stack they serve at IHOP (all-you-can-eat curcumin pancakes with blueberry syrup and chitlins).

\*my beloved spouse’s one-time nickname was Mrs. Short Stack.

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/12 "2018-02-23T19:51:03Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> If you lop off the “n”, you get “ootropic”, which could mean “moving egg”, which sounds a little creepy.

But eggs move around all the time. (As long as they’re inside the chicken.)

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/13 "2018-02-23T21:07:13Z")

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All I can say is that I hope I die before I get to the point where I have to refer to the amount of medications I take as a “stack”. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/14 "2018-02-23T21:12:12Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> All I can say is that I hope I die before I get to the point where I have to refer to the amount of medications I take as a “stack”. :dubious:

It’s a transhumanist term intended to make the consumption of unregulated ‘supplements’ of questionable efficacy sound more science-y. Like how PR people like to say that some area of competence is “in our DNA” even though they can barely spell DNA.

Stranger

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/15 "2018-02-23T21:25:15Z")

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I drink a couple cups of coffee in the morning … that keeps me going until it rundgts gfua bije ndjshagb …

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/16 "2018-02-23T22:44:59Z")

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Chocolate.

As the Gods intended!

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/17 "2018-02-23T22:50:28Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> It’s a transhumanist term intended to make the consumption of unregulated ‘supplements’ of questionable efficacy sound more science-y. Like how PR people like to say that some area of competence is “in our DNA” even though they can barely spell DNA.
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> Stranger

While I completely agree with this statement, I am still puzzling over whether or not there are cis-humanists. I suppose there must be.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/18 "2018-02-24T05:22:29Z")

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I don’t regularly take any these days, I always try some if I am attempting to counter side effects from a medication or something that needs or may need correction. I was taking Inositol, for anxiolytic properties. Milk Thistle when I was a heavy drinker, Turmeric when I was a heavy smoker, Ginko Biloba during school to help my short term memory, Melatonin (does that count?) I still take some days when I oversleep and need to get to bed early the next night. I found a strange website before that has information on a lot of nootropics, [lycaeum.org](http://lycaeum.org), It’s mostly stuff for burnouts but it does prove to have some useful information when you can find cites.

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**Author:** ![edwardcoast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cab0a1/32.png) [@edwardcoast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwardcoast)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/19 "2018-02-24T09:37:28Z")

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> [@mandala](#):
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> And which pill do you take for sleep? 😃

None. I read 10-15 minutes before I turn the lights off and go to sleep.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-nootropic-stack/809390/20 "2018-02-24T11:46:32Z")

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I had some success with modafinil a few years ago. Tried piracetam, too, but that didn’t do much for me.

I microdose sometimes, either with LSD or (very rarely) with mescaline.

As for yer regular garden variety supplements and such, I drink coffee and/or tea, and I take magnesium, vitamin D and l-theanine. I’m quite tempted to try out creatine and l-citrulline, too, since I’ve gotten a lot more active in the last year or so.

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