# What is your personal dump stat?

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**Created:** [August 9, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-personal-dump-stat/592095 "2011-08-09T16:29:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-personal-dump-stat/592095/21 "2011-08-11T20:00:38Z")

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Dexterity, definitely. I am very clumsy and while I do work out, I do it for the Strength and Con. Intelligence, Wisdom and (to a degree) Charisma are all pretty important for modern life and real world priorities, so none of those.

> [@Double\_Foolscap](#):
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> Oh well, maybe there’s a supplement with some feats I could take.

Go for a prestige class!

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**Author:** ![chaosshifter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90db22/32.png) [@chaosshifter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaosshifter)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-personal-dump-stat/592095/22 "2011-08-22T09:08:06Z")

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Charisma, then either constitution or wisdom. The only time it really changes is if I end up being the token cleric in which case I go low on dex and strength. But so far in the games and my last group I was in we allmost never needed anything with Charisma though that was prolly just the DM and us being lazy.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-personal-dump-stat/592095/23 "2011-08-22T15:01:08Z")

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> [@chaosshifter](#):
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> Charisma, then either constitution or wisdom. The only time it really changes is if I end up being the token cleric in which case I go low on dex and strength. But so far in the games and my last group I was in we allmost never needed anything with Charisma though that was prolly just the DM and us being lazy.

You might want to re-read the thread. This isn’t about your _characters_’ stats, it’s about _your_ stats. Your real-world strength, agility, and so forth, as seen through the distorted lens of D&D (or D&D-esque) rules.

Now, I’m not picking for you…but you did fail your Spot check on the premise of the thread. 😃

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-personal-dump-stat/592095/24 "2011-08-22T15:48:34Z")

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Dex, definitely. Weapon Focus and skill bonuses make up for it in the few areas it’s relevant, unless you have a better explanation for why I’m a good shot but can’t handwrite or throw/catch worth a darn.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-personal-dump-stat/592095/25 "2011-08-22T16:26:59Z")

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Looking objectively at my life, I surmise I must have minimized all my stats, and taken a few character flaws, in order to maximize my magical aptitude. I’d be bigger than Merlin, Gandalf, and Harry Potter combined - if I hadn’t got dumped in a non-magical setting.

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**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-personal-dump-stat/592095/26 "2011-08-22T16:31:11Z")

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does getting a paper cut means low Constitution or simply low armour?  
plug: Og doesn’t even have enough skill points to come out of character creation yet, but he’s shaping up to be a lovable meatshield with everything else as a dump stat… [Doper Attributes . Character Creation](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=620869)

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**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-personal-dump-stat/592095/27 "2011-08-22T16:47:55Z")

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It’s either Charisma or Dexterity for me. I’m a natural klutz and am very badly coordinated; lack of social contacts throughout life all point to a low Charisma.

Wasn’t there an article in a Dragon magazine where there are a set of tests to determine your real-life stats? I remember Strength is determined by how many bench presses you can do.

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-personal-dump-stat/592095/28 "2011-08-22T17:28:30Z")

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Oh, about twice a day.

Joe

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-personal-dump-stat/592095/29 "2011-08-22T20:08:22Z")

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Weeeell… my STR is clearly a dump stat. DEX used to be a’ight, but isn’t anymore. Who actually uses the old age rules, FFS ?! CON… I guess I got a mild edge there, I’m pretty tough for a weedy nerd, even though I get wheezy walking to the corner store. INT is bog standard. WIS, as much as I’d like to pretend, is similarly average (and I must have some sort of racial penalty to Spot & Search checks). Finally, CHA has got to be in the low single digits, compensated for by a few ranks in Craft (Witless Snark) and Perform (Drunken Singing).

In summary: My DM is a dick who should have let me reroll.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-personal-dump-stat/592095/30 "2011-08-22T20:12:44Z")

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This is difficult for me to determine. I definitely score well in Strength, Constitution, Intelligence, and Wisdom, but the other two involve some things I do very well, and others that I don’t. For instance, with Dexterity, I have very good hand-eye coordination and balance, but I’m perhaps closer to average in terms of agility and speed. Similarly, with Charisma, I am reasonably good looking and, as far as I know, well regarded by people, but my persuasiveness relies much more on my ability to appeal to people’s intellect, reason, or emotions, and I’m certainly not a magnetic personality.

So, anyway, I’d probably have to go with Charisma being my worst, mostly because I can compare myself to people I know are highly charismatic and I’m not like them at all, whereas I can compare myself to others known for a number of the other stats and, if I’m not on the same level, I’m at least comparable. That, and I think Charisma largely entails extraverted personalities and I’m just… not.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-personal-dump-stat/592095/31 "2011-08-22T20:21:48Z")

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Wisdom. Any choice I make without conferring with someone else tends to be a bad choice.

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-personal-dump-stat/592095/32 "2011-08-24T15:08:07Z")

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> [@shijinn](#):
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> does getting a paper cut means low Constitution or simply low armour?

That all depends… is a person always flat-footed on paper cut attack since he/she is always surprised when getting one? In that case, I would surmise that low AC is responsible more than anything else. Wear a pair of chainmail gloves every day and you’ll never get a paper cut again. Regardless, I would assume paper cut damage is always subdual as I can’t see anyone dying from a multitude of them. (Of course, Death By One Thousand Paper Cuts sounds like some form of ancient Chinese torture… okay, I really need to stop and get back to work now…)

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**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-personal-dump-stat/592095/33 "2011-08-24T16:17:36Z")

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well what do you know, someone wondered the same thing and posted the question a couple of months back. thread got sidetracked by said ancient Chinese torture though. - [Death by a thousand paper cuts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=608681)

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