# What is your problem, Chronos?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 3, 2025, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519 "2025-11-03T03:41:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/161 "2025-11-20T14:38:32Z")

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That was the only thing I did. Just open to the possibility there’s more to it. Hoping there was? So … still saddened. None of us are perfect in our posting personas and it is not a good outcome if he feels this place is unwelcome to him.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/162 "2025-11-20T15:17:25Z")

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Huh. I guess I expected this thread to be one of those where it gets resolved very early and then people start riffing.

it seems pretty simple  
S: The way Chronos responded suggests I deliberately did this bad thing. it seems like you have a problem with me  
C: nope. and that wasn’t my intent. I’m sorry it came off that way

or something like that.

i can’t say i’m fond of where this thread has gone. I get it sometimes when pits backfire, but I didn’t really feel like Stranger was being enough of a jerk to deserve that.

I’m not like super upset about it or anything. Not gonna yell at anyone in particular or anything. But this was not the way I expected this thread to go at all. I could see him also not enjoying it and feeling pretty bad.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/163 "2025-11-20T16:16:23Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> None of us are perfect in our posting personas and it is not a good outcome if he feels this place is unwelcome to him.

Certainly none of us are infallible, especially when expounding outside our areas of expertise. Even the most diligent of “research” i e. Googling can lead one astray.

True Renaissance men/women are hard to find, especially among anonymous Internet posters.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/164 "2025-11-20T16:42:05Z")

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This wouldn’t be the first time that Stranger took time off and pouted for a bit after getting chided as I recall. Anyway, I’m with @BigT and agree with her last post. The point has been made.

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/165 "2025-11-20T16:52:22Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> I, as someone who criticized your occasional overreach some in this thread, miss your participation, and pretty sure I am not alone.

You are not alone, @DSeid. I’ve noticed @Stranger_On_A_Train’s absence as well, and hope he returns. He adds a lot to the board, and I really enjoy reading his grad-school-reading-level posts. 😉

Frankly, his educated, intelligent posts with a sprinkling of snarkiness remind me of the original Straight Dope columns by the Perfect Master himself.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/166 "2025-11-20T17:32:06Z")

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Oh, I think he’s one of my favorite posters here. I’m just coming away with a little more caution about what I, personally, accept as true without any due-diligence on my part.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/167 "2025-11-20T17:34:25Z")

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I think Stranger’s posts are often very well informed and helpful. The fact not quite all of them are is hardly unique to any poster.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/168 "2025-11-20T23:56:55Z")

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> [@robby](#):
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> Frankly, his educated, intelligent posts with a sprinkling of snarkiness remind me of the original Straight Dope columns by the Perfect Master himself.

The problem with snarkiness is when the person doesn’t know what they are talking about and then it’s annoying.

Unfortunately, it’s fairly common on the Dope and certainly isn’t limited to either the OP or the pittee.

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**Author:** ![We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/We_re_wolves_not_werewolves)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/169 "2025-11-21T00:14:02Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I could see him also not enjoying it and feeling pretty bad.

You know what, that is just tough. Time for him to put on his big boy pants. I agree Stranger is an extremely valuable poster but everyone, and I mean everyone, has been called out at least once for things they have posted. If you are going to post here, you need to have a thick enough skin to take the occasional ribbing. No one gets a pass here.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/170 "2025-11-21T02:02:04Z")

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I don’t disagree. I am sad that he is not currently posting and hope that he returns, but yeah. Criticism is par for any course. And in this case while I am sorry the criticism (which came in the manner not at all unreasonable or surprising for a Pit thread) was possibly enough to drive into a hiatus, it was not off the mark. Ideally we have thick enough hides to consider criticism for possible validity and possible opportunity for improvement. Or after reasoned consideration to reject it without hard feelings.

My sadness that he is currently absent is less regret that his Pit thread blew back at him, that happens with fair frequency and any Pitter should be ready to become the Pitee, than sadness over the result.

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/171 "2025-11-21T03:18:52Z")

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I remember in the Blake days, when he got caught in a 100+ long posting thread where he was clearly in the wrong and doubling down against multiple posters, instead of ever admitting he was wrong, he’d just stop posting on the dope for a few weeks to months and then randomly slink back in, pretending nothing had ever happened.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/172 "2025-11-21T17:51:10Z")

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Since we’re all tossing in our takes. My take is that a lot of the people who are picking on Stranger are because he disagreed with them on one of their precious topics. It’s certainly possible that he is wrong in some areas, but I’ve not seen it in any topic I’m familiar with. Wolfpup doesn’t like that Stranger [doesn’t fellate the dicks of the LLM gods](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chatgpt-breaking-up-marriages/1023241/26). Chessic\_Sense is pretty much [always wrong about everything](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ama-about-kate-bush/965841/18), but his [beef with Stranger seems to be around the shutdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-ever-been-personally-affected-by-a-federal-government-shutdown/1023572/24). If Dallas\_Jones didn’t like me, [my day would be made](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-epstein-files-question/1020997/236). Saint\_Cad [will never be](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-refutes-math-conjecture-enters-phd-program-without-a-degree/1021655/120) in [the same league](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sabine-hossenfelder-anti-science/1009449/35) as Sabine Hossenfelder, whose name he can’t even spell correctly. If that’s the peanut gallery picking on Stranger, then I don’t feel swayed.

I certainly haven’t read all of his posts, but when it comes to data science related topics, he absolutely knows his stuff, probably far better than me and I managed DS teams for a good 12 years before retiring. Chronos gets nitpicky with me on occasion, but it’s probably warranted for the most part, so I brush it off. If he goes over the line, I’ll tell him to fuck off (in the appropriate forum). Same with Stranger. What I’m absolutely NOT going to do is fart around in a thread throwing accusations at either of two highly intelligent posters without at least a few links to back me up.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/173 "2025-11-21T17:55:11Z")

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I’m just not seeing the difference in the three spellings. Try linking to the correct post at least.

> [@DMC](#):
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> Saint\_Cad [will never be](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-refutes-math-conjecture-enters-phd-program-without-a-degree/1021655/120) in [the same league](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sabine-hossenfelder-anti-science/1009449/35) as Sabine Hossenfelder, whose name he can’t even spell correctly.

> [@17-year-old refutes math conjecture, enters PhD program without a degree](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/17-year-old-refutes-math-conjecture-enters-phd-program-without-a-degree/1021655/120):
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> If you watch Sabine Hossenfelder’s videos, there is also “expert in one thing = expert in everything”

> **[Sabine Hossenfelder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine_Hossenfelder)**
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> Sabine Karin Doris Hossenfelder (born 18 September 1976) is a German theoretical physicist, author of popular-science books, and host of a YouTube channel.
> Hossenfelder was born in Frankfurt and earned a mathematics diploma from Goethe University Frankfurt in 1997. She stayed on to complete a doctorate in theoretical physics in 2003; her dissertation, supervised by Horst Stöcker, studied microscopic black-hole production in models with large extra dimensions.
> After post-doctoral posts at the ...

> [@DMC](#):
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> If that’s the peanut gallery picking on Stranger, then I don’t feel swayed.

Where did I pick on Stranger? Try to find the right post.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/174 "2025-11-21T18:07:05Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> Since we’re all tossing in our takes. My take is that a lot of the people who are picking on Stranger are because he disagreed with them on one of their precious topics. It’s certainly possible that he is wrong in some areas, but I’ve not seen it in any topic I’m familiar with. Wolfpup doesn’t like that Stranger [doesn’t fellate the dicks of the LLM gods](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chatgpt-breaking-up-marriages/1023241/26).

Well, yes, we’ve had disagreements, but that’s not what drove me to contribute to this pitting. It was his flagrant lying, accusing me of dishonesty by allegedly editing my quotes of him in ways that were deceptive. He has never explained just exactly how my quotes were deceptive, or why he exploded with such hostility to a simple factual correction on the water vapor issue, accusing me of “stalking” him. It appears that this pitting has driven him away at least temporarily, and that’s too bad because he was a valuable poster. But I don’t take kindly to being called a liar when I’m posting in good faith, so at least in that respect, he can fuck right off.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/175 "2025-11-21T18:22:57Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> What I’m absolutely NOT going to do is fart around in a thread throwing accusations at either of two highly intelligent posters without at least a few links to back me up.

Great! Read my link up thread.

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**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/176 "2025-11-21T18:41:45Z")

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Bravo.

ETA: you said it better than I could have.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/177 "2025-11-21T18:43:52Z")

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> [@The Californias: 3, down from 6](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-californias-3-down-from-6/812326/31):
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> That is one of the stupidest fucking things I’ve ever read. Have you ever actually been to Santa Barbara?

Here it is again

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/178 "2025-11-21T19:06:41Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> My take is that a lot of the people who are picking on Stranger are because he disagreed with them on one of their precious topics. It’s certainly possible that he is wrong in some areas, but I’ve not seen it in any topic I’m familiar with.

My annoyance generally comes from my experience that he’ll post 2 sentences’ worth of intelligent reply to a topic, combined with 8 sentences of tangentially-related blather (TRB). And someone else in the same thread is almost guaranteed to post the same 2 sentences’ worth of information without the superfluous padding.

I’ve posted more than my share of blather over the years, but at least I send it out as single spies, not battalions.

The fact that every single post of his is guaranteed to end with a 100% redundant piece of information is just the turd icing on the blather cake.

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/179 "2025-11-22T02:13:12Z")

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Well, at least we can all agree on one thing. Kate Bush does, indeed, suck.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-your-problem-chronos/1024519/180 "2025-11-22T03:55:02Z")

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