# What kind of a soulless fucktard would kill puppies with fireworks?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 30, 2004, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847 "2004-06-30T06:47:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![BethCro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cdc98d/32.png) [@BethCro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BethCro)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/21 "2004-07-02T03:22:56Z")

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Yes, it is truly horrible and makes me ashamed to be from Tulsa … but from the latest news, is it even true?

## From [http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0704/156627.html](http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0704/156627.html)

Is this house the scene where six puppies were allegedly blown up by fireworks? Or is the story a hoax? We spoke with Bob Whiteley, the assistant director at the Tulsa Animal Shelter. He tells us two investigators have been working on the case since early Monday morning.

“We have not found the puppies,” he says. “Yes, that’s what we’re still looking for, for the evidence.”

Evidence that doesn’t exist, at least at the site where the dogs were supposedly killed. We talked with this woman who said the dog identified as the puppies mother actually belonged to her mother. She said “Sally” had 11 puppies just over a month ago.

She said two of the puppies died soon after birth, the other nine were given away and were no longer in the neighborhood. We talked to other neighbors who also expressed doubt that kids in the area would be capable of that kind of cruelty.

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I dunno, is this just the city trying to cover its arse and appear a caring place as this has received international attention or was it just a hoax?

Never mind the cop who shot the Golden Retriever a week or so back, what about the people who have had family members murdered and have had less donated to the Crimewatchers fund to catch their murderers?

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**Author:** ![monica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a183cd/32.png) [@monica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monica)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/22 "2004-07-02T03:25:37Z")

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This makes me absolutely furious. How can anyone even do such a horrible thing? It makes me want to cry and it makes me want to shove firecrackers into _their_ mouths at the same time.

What we really need to do is stick them, and all who commit crimes like them, away from society (especially animals) in prison. In isolation cells, so they can’t share ideas. Then, when they die, they should each have a specially designed little corner of Hell. These particular animal abusers should be blown apart by firecrackers, have all the pieces fly back together, be blown apart again, etc., for all eternity.

How DARE they do that to those poor creatures? I think I’m going to go cry now.

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**Author:** ![Darkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@Darkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkness)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/23 "2004-07-02T04:29:13Z")

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Geez! More bad news from Tulsa. Awhile back that judge with the penis pump… now some sickos killing puppies. How about an eye for an eye? Treat them as targets.

Does anything good ever happen in Tulsa nowadays (I’m from Tulsa)?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2004, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/24 "2004-07-02T15:44:23Z")

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There’s also [two](http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0604/156189.html) [intervening](http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0704/156400.html) articles, the first of which says that the surviving puppy was set on fire. The same article indicates that the SPCA believes the female dog (called “Amaya” in the article) is indeed the puppies’ mother and is confused by their absence. That certainly casts doubt on the “Sally” story in my mind.

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**Author:** ![MidnightRadio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MidnightRadio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MidnightRadio)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2004, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/25 "2004-07-03T02:53:29Z")

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> [@Darkness](#):
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> …judge with the penis pump…

I must have missed that one. A judge had a penis pump? Tell me more.

Oh, and don’t forget, we also persecute [witches](http://www.aclu.org/ReligiousLiberty/ReligiousLiberty.cfm?ID=8162&c=139)!

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**Author:** ![SpasmicChaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@SpasmicChaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpasmicChaos)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2004, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/26 "2004-07-03T11:24:27Z")

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> [@MidnightRadio](#):
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> I must have missed that one. A judge had a penis pump? Tell me more.

[Judge suspected of masturbating in court](http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06/24/odd.judge.reut/)

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**Author:** ![MidnightRadio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MidnightRadio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MidnightRadio)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2004, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/27 "2004-07-03T11:55:04Z")

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> [@SpasmicChaos](#):
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> [Judge suspected of masturbating in court](http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06/24/odd.judge.reut/)

Oh… _God_.

> [@](#):
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> “On one occasion, Ms. (Lisa) Foster (Thompson’s court reporter for 15 years), saw Judge Thompson holding his penis up and shaving underneath it with a disposable razor while on the bench,” the petition reads.

:eek:

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**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2004, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/28 "2004-07-03T17:11:50Z")

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> [@picker](#):
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> I absolutely hate people sometimes. This is sickening.
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> From [CNN.com](http://CNN.com): [Dogs Attacked with Fireworks](http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/06/29/dog.abuse.fireworks.ap/index.html)

So, is this some kind of new, sick, evil hobby? [Same kind of thing happened to a horse near Seattle.](http://komotv.com/stories/32024.htm)

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/29 "2004-07-04T01:12:09Z")

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> [@koeeoaddi](#):
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> So, is this some kind of new, sick, evil hobby? [Same kind of thing happened to a horse near Seattle.](http://komotv.com/stories/32024.htm)

Great, this just adds to my list of people to ki…um…talk to.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2004, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/30 "2004-07-04T04:16:48Z")

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In all seriousness, I’ve suggested before that people who torture animals like this should be required to publicly register themselves in the same way that sex offenders have to. As others have noted, virtually all serial killers have histories of torturing animals so there is a legitimate social need be addressed. And the humiliation of having to go around to every house within five blocks of their residence and tell everyone “Hi, remember me? I’m the guy that killed those puppies” would do them good.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2004, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/31 "2004-07-04T18:47:43Z")

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The latest from Tulsa: [Two Teens Confess To Burning Dog](http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0704/156856.html).

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/32 "2004-07-09T16:46:03Z")

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More news: [a brother of the teens](http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0704/157617.html) and [their mother](http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0704/157948.html) have been arrested for allegedly intimidating a witness. The witness is the same person who brought the injured dogs to the SPCA and filed the report about the six puppies. This just keeps getting weirder.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/33 "2004-07-09T16:53:28Z")

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Correction: the _mother_ is the one who brought the dogs to the SPCA and reported the dead puppies story. This is getting weirder than I thought! Perhaps she cooked up the dead puppies story in an attempt to get the heat off her sons.

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**Author:** ![Bongmaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Bongmaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bongmaster)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/34 "2004-07-09T21:08:22Z")

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I have a confession. When I was very young I killed a frog with a rock. At the time I didn’t see the signifigance, but as I got older it has weighed on me like few things in my past have. Assuming they aren’t wild psychotics these people as they age will begin to feel tremendous guilt. Karma is a bitch.

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**Author:** ![EvilGhandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@EvilGhandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilGhandi)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2004, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/35 "2004-07-10T12:14:50Z")

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At first I called bullshit.

What kinda fire cracker can kill a dog?

But I guess they did it more than once. Which makes it even more appalling. They used the mommy dog for target practice for roman candles?

From what I gather, these guys meticuliosly tortured a few dogs for shits and grins.

Do they deserve prison time for it? I dunno

Do they need their heads kicked in? Most likely.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2004, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-a-soulless-fucktard-would-kill-puppies-with-fireworks/252847/36 "2004-07-10T14:26:49Z")

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> [@EvilGhandi](#):
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> At first I called bullshit.
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> What kinda fire cracker can kill a dog?

I think a Cherry Bomb or M-80 would probably do the trick.

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