# What kind of dog do you think this is? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [September 12, 2005, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201 "2005-09-12T04:21:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![loctanster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@loctanster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/loctanster)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/1 "2005-09-12T04:21:32Z")
We have these puppies and we aren’t really sure what kind of dog he is. He’s pretty big: at about ten weeks he weighs 23 pounds, but he’s not really that fat. He’s a little chubby, but tall and wide. Anyway, here are the pictures: [Here he is](http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12ee.jpg) [His sister](http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=26cr.jpg) [Kind of a bad picture of the late (got hit recently) mom](http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0017in.jpg) We have no idea who the dad is. We figure he was just a mutt, but if there was something particular we could know that would be very helpful. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/2 "2005-09-12T04:26:19Z")
Almost certainly a mix. The only breed I can say almost certainly is present would be Beagle, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/3 "2005-09-12T06:33:09Z")
A mix certainly. The mother looks like german shepard + border collie, there’s a lot of those around. And I agree - there might be beagle in the pups. ---
**Author:** ![Cheez\_Whia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@Cheez\_Whia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheez_Whia)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/4 "2005-09-12T13:12:28Z")
His head sort of had a Rottweiler look to it. He sure is a cutie! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JerH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@JerH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JerH)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/5 "2005-09-12T13:37:51Z")
He looks like beagle, his momma looks border collie, and sis’s coloring calls out retriever to me; in other words, a mutt. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/6 "2005-09-12T13:41:31Z")
He’s a good doggie. Are you a good doggie? Good doggie want a cookie? Who’s the good doggie? Yes, you’re the good doggie… ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/7 "2005-09-12T14:55:19Z")
He’s a cute doggie! Muttly with a bit of beagle. ---
**Author:** ![Cowgirl\_Jules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@Cowgirl\_Jules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowgirl_Jules)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/8 "2005-09-12T14:55:43Z")
Both of the pups look to me like they might have a touch of [Walker Hound](http://www.treehound.com/treehound/html/walker.html) in them. I’ve seen them both in that sable color and tri like the male pup, although I don’t think they usually have quite so much white on them. But you said they were a mix anyway. The hounds run around here are often crossbred themselves, usually with another hound breed or with pits to breed lion-hunting dogs. A hound’s a runner too, so papa might not have been from the near neighborhood. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/9 "2005-09-12T14:58:33Z")
It looks like it has [Bernese Mountain Dog](http://www.puppyparadise.com/bernese_mountain_dog_breed_info.html) with some rottweiller thrown in and maybe some evil beagle. His sister looks a bit like a golden mix. Mom looks like a rotty mix with a little German Shepard. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/10 "2005-09-12T15:05:55Z")
The second one (based on the eyes) seems to be some sort of a [Bowie](http://www.inception-magazine.com/spring04/art/bowieeyes.jpg) mix. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/11 "2005-09-12T15:11:48Z")
> [@Cheez\_Whia](#): > > His head sort of had a Rottweiler look to it. There’s definitely something of a Rottie to his face (and his mum’s from the look of it). He looks almost exactly like my grandmother’s old dog (he died about a year ago), who was a ‘Heinz’, as we say. A well mixed mutt - 57 varieties of dog in there! ---
**Author:** ![LissyLou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5daacb/32.png) [@LissyLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LissyLou)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/12 "2005-09-12T16:41:02Z")
Here’s a good place to check out different large breeds. [gentlegiantsrescue.com](http://gentlegiantsrescue.com) ---
**Author:** ![loctanster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@loctanster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/loctanster)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/13 "2005-09-13T00:35:29Z")
Thanks for everyone’s opinions. He is cute, but ornery as a devil ;). ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/14 "2005-09-13T02:00:48Z")
May I hitchhike on your thread? My friend is fostering [Champ](http://www.mixbreedrescue.com/dog/champ_060405.jpg) and [Raven](http://www.mixbreedrescue.com/dog/raven_060405.jpg). Anybody have a guess as to what they are? ---
**Author:** ![Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Long_Time_First_Time)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/15 "2005-09-13T02:58:51Z")
> [@Oslo Ostragoth](#): > > May I hitchhike on your thread? > > My friend is fostering [Champ](http://www.mixbreedrescue.com/dog/champ_060405.jpg) and [Raven](http://www.mixbreedrescue.com/dog/raven_060405.jpg). Anybody have a guess as to what they are? I’d have to guess the 101 Dalmations craze of a few years back is responsible for their spots. IF Raven and Champ are littermates - I’d go with Dalmation/Collie tyep cross. I’d agree that the OP’s puppies look like a beagle or some similiar hound type found his way to the mother. FWIW - I know a receptionist at a vet clinic who is beloved by clients because she’ll guess exotic breed crosses at the drop of a hat. For instance, she’ll look at a large fuzzy mutt that dollars to doughnuts is a cross between somebody’s sort of Golden Retriever and a Rottenweiller “type” mutt and tell the owners that it’s a cross between a Newfoundland and a Irish Setter (as if a purebred intact Irish Setter just happened to be running loose and ran across a purebred Newfie in heat). ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/16 "2005-09-13T03:04:57Z")
**loctanster** , the first picture you have looks almost exactly like my dog did as a puppy, and the other picture looks like her brothers. She’s a border collie/lab mix. We thought she was a Bernese Mountain Dog, like **Shirley** said, but we later met the owners of her mother and they told us what she was. **Oslo** , I think Champ is one of the cutest puppies I’ve ever seen. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/17 "2005-09-14T03:13:11Z")
> [@Long Time First Time](#): > > I’d have to guess the 101 Dalmations craze of a few years back is responsible for their spots. IF Raven and Champ are littermates - I’d go with Dalmation/Collie tyep cross. Not littermates. More on Raven: she has big radar-type ears, usually erect, and a tail that curls 360 degrees. To me, she looks like a basenji, but that seems unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-dog-do-you-think-this-is/321201/18 "2005-09-14T03:15:40Z")
> [@C3](#): > > **Oslo** , I think Champ is one of the cutest puppies I’ve ever seen. That picture is not very current. He is pretty much adult-sized now. One of the sweetest dogs I’ve ever met…