# What kind of hat is this? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 19, 2008, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-hat-is-this/453448 "2008-06-19T06:37:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-hat-is-this/453448/1 "2008-06-19T06:37:13Z")
Is there a name for a hat like this? [http://www.jamd.com/search?assettype=g&assetid=50809696&text=ed+burns+hat](http://www.jamd.com/search?assettype=g&assetid=50809696&text=ed+burns+hat) ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-hat-is-this/453448/2 "2008-06-19T06:54:27Z")
A [flat cap](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_cap). ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-hat-is-this/453448/3 "2008-06-19T09:03:09Z")
I always knew that as a golf cap. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-hat-is-this/453448/4 "2008-06-19T09:21:11Z")
My brother in law from Philly calls them jeff caps, but I’ve only heard other people from Philly call it that. ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-hat-is-this/453448/5 "2008-06-19T10:41:11Z")
You keep the flat cap; I’ll take the not flat thing under it. [![](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:H%C3%BCfthose.jpg) ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:H%C3%BCfthose.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![SharkB8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@SharkB8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SharkB8)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-hat-is-this/453448/6 "2008-06-19T12:57:02Z")
I’ve always called them “ivy caps.” I just googled ivy cap the same Wikipedia “flat cap” link that GuanoLad posted came up! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_chao_goes_mu/32/3191_2.png) [@The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Chao_Goes_Mu)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-hat-is-this/453448/7 "2008-06-19T13:05:00Z")
I’ve always called them “Immigrant caps” or “Just-Off-The-Boat hats.” I say that in a non-derisive way of course. I recall many of the Ellis Island photos of immigrants getting off the boats and so many of the men, regardless of their country of origin, can be seen wearing flat caps. I own three of them by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-hat-is-this/453448/8 "2008-06-19T13:13:01Z")
Isn’t that a Elton John hat? [Irish Touring hat](http://www.johnhelmer.com/prod.itml/icOid/18) [Gortex touring hat](http://www.noggintops.com/page.cfm?p=69) ---
**Author:** ![Soul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Soul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-hat-is-this/453448/9 "2008-06-19T13:40:53Z")
Why, that’s my hat! > **[Kangol Men's 504 Cap at Amazon Men’s Clothing store](https://www.amazon.com/Kangol-Mens-504-Cap/dp/B00ICS104M)** > > The wool 504 is the iconic, original Kangol cap. First introduced in 1954, the 504 cap gets its name from the block number that it is made on. The 100 percent seamless wool cap is the ultimate cap for comfort and style. My friends call it a “paperboy hat,” which redirects to the “flat cap” on Wikipedia that **GuanoLad** suggested. For completeness’ sake, a drunk man once shouted that I was a “Reuben Studdard Hat-Wearing Motherfucker,” so I suppose that’s in the vernacular. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-hat-is-this/453448/10 "2008-06-23T18:02:33Z")
Flat caps are or were very common here in rural areas. My dad wore one and some of his brothers still do. Some of my cousins wear them too but in more “urban” style. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-hat-is-this/453448/11 "2008-06-23T21:41:42Z")
[QUOTE=Soul] My friends call it a “paperboy hat,” which redirects to the “flat cap” on Wikipedia that **GuanoLad** suggested. [/QUOTE] I always thought a newsboy cap was more baggy, like [http://www.snarkstress.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/111907\_moore\_400x400.jpg](http://www.snarkstress.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/111907_moore_400x400.jpg) or is that when it’s not attached at the brim?