# What kind of monster eats cream cheese wontons?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 27, 2017, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305 "2017-01-27T08:01:15Z")\
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A place I used to go to (it went out of business. I wonder why) had it listed on their menu as “Crad Rangoon”. Yes, that’s how they spelled it.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/42 "2017-01-28T01:53:42Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Funny how regional these things can be. I can’t say every Chinese take-out style restaurant here in Chicago has crab rangoon, but it’s fairly ubiquitous. (I just looked at the menus of 5 places nearby, and 4 of them had crab rangoon.) They’re decent, but it’s all a bit heavy for me, so I only have them if someone else orders them.

He’s pulling your leg.

I love crab rangoon. I’d probably love them more if they had more crab in them. I guess I’ll have to make them myself.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/43 "2017-01-28T01:55:58Z")

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This monster loves me some Crab Rangoon. My zymolosely polydactyl tongue is always ready to slurp some up.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/44 "2017-01-28T02:13:06Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> He’s pulling your leg.
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> I love crab rangoon. I’d probably love them more if they had more crab in them. I guess I’ll have to make them myself.

Yeah, I’m sure you’re right, but I don’t remember crab rangoon being that big here in the 80s and 90s, so I thought perhaps it did vary greatly depending on region (despite the references to obviously “non-American” Chinese appetizers). Or perhaps my folks just never bought crab rangoon. It was always egg rolls, spring rolls, or those fried pork won-ton things. Or sometimes some kind of BBQ pork. I didn’t discover it until I was well into college.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/45 "2017-01-28T02:55:09Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> He’s pulling your leg.

No, I’m quite serious! Where did you find crab rangoon in Park Slope? I pulled out menus from all the Chinese places I’ve ordered from in the past ten years!

(The weird-sounding dishes in my first post were all from Golden Imperial Palace in Sunset Park, Brooklyn’s Chinatown, which is Cantonese dim sum authentic to the extent that you almost never see a black, white, or brown face in the joint. And it’s a BIG joint.)

> **[J. King Seafood Palace](https://foursquare.com/v/j-king-seafood-palace/4c44602ff799e21ec1b0ada2)**
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> Seafood Restaurant in Brooklyn, NY

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/46 "2017-01-28T03:02:45Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> No, I’m quite serious! Where did you find crab rangoon in Park Slope? I pulled out menus from all the Chinese places I’ve ordered from in the past ten years!
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> (The weird-sounding dishes in my first post were all from Golden Imperial Palace in Sunset Park, Brooklyn’s Chinatown, which is Cantonese dim sum authentic to the extent that you almost never see a black, white, or brown face in the joint. And it’s a BIG joint.)
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> [J. King Seafood Palace - Sunset Park - 10 tips](https://foursquare.com/v/j-king-seafood-palace/4c44602ff799e21ec1b0ada2)

Any take-out place from Downtown to, well, everywhere! Don’t tell me you never went to a take-out place in Park Slope.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/47 "2017-01-28T03:06:55Z")

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Never heard of cream cheese wontons, but I love crab rangoons. As someone else said upthread, they’re the most variable of the Standard Chinese Takeout menu items. I’m partial to the ones that are very soft and likely too sweet for most people.

I’m so uninterested in authenticity that my dinner tonight was crab rangoons, California roll, sushi (shrimp, white tuna, eel, and two others I couldn’t identify, including the ubiquitous pink slab of something that used to swim), and Tom Yum Soup. Don’t you judge me. It was all delicious.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/48 "2017-01-28T03:09:21Z")

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A few years ago at Christmas, my cousin made some with sausage. Now those were heavenly!

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/49 "2017-01-28T03:15:34Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Any take-out place from Downtown to, well, everywhere! Don’t tell me you never went to a take-out place in Park Slope.

There are at least twelve Chinese joints within an easy stroll of my humble home (roughly Eighth Ave & Garfield). I ONLY order within Park Slope; why ask some poor bastard to bicycle or burn fuel to come from another neighborhood?

No rangoonaroonies at any of 'em.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/50 "2017-01-28T03:25:40Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> I’m so uninterested in authenticity that my dinner tonight was crab rangoons, California roll, sushi (shrimp, white tuna, eel, and two others I couldn’t identify, including the ubiquitous pink slab of something that used to swim), and Tom Yum Soup. Don’t you judge me. It was all delicious.

I wouldn’t judge you. I’m really fond of Philadelphia Roll – sushi with cold-smoked salmon, cream cheese, cucumber, and scallion. It’s like having your Sunday morning bagel, but with sushi.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/51 "2017-01-28T03:32:28Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> No, I’m quite serious! Where did you find crab rangoon in Park Slope? I pulled out menus from all the Chinese places I’ve ordered from in the past ten years!
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> (The weird-sounding dishes in my first post were all from Golden Imperial Palace in Sunset Park, Brooklyn’s Chinatown, which is Cantonese dim sum authentic to the extent that you almost never see a black, white, or brown face in the joint. And it’s a BIG joint.)
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> [J. King Seafood Palace - Sunset Park - 10 tips](https://foursquare.com/v/j-king-seafood-palace/4c44602ff799e21ec1b0ada2)

Are any of these close? [https://www.yelp.com/search?find\_desc=best+crab+rangoon&find\_loc=Park+Slope%2C+Brooklyn%2C+NY](https://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=best+crab+rangoon&find_loc=Park+Slope%2C+Brooklyn%2C+NY)

Search cheese wonton too.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/52 "2017-01-28T04:17:33Z")

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Thank you! Maybe I’ll try one of those tomorrow night.

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I’ve had them, they don’t suck.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/54 "2017-01-28T14:39:01Z")

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Vegetarian monsters, of which I am one.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/55 "2017-01-28T19:18:03Z")

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I just ransacked my menu drawer and pulled out six menus from Chinese takeout places within a few miles of here. Crab rangoon is offered at ALL of them. Interestingly, they ALL have ‘fried wonton’ as separate menu items and I admit I haven’t the first clue as to what they’d be stuffed with. Maybe just cream cheese, no ‘crab’? One place has ‘fried wonton cheese & crabmeat’ in addition to crab rangoon, not sure what the difference is there.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/56 "2017-01-28T20:07:18Z")

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> [@jnglmassiv](#):
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> I just ransacked my menu drawer and pulled out six menus from Chinese takeout places within a few miles of here. Crab rangoon is offered at ALL of them. Interestingly, they ALL have ‘fried wonton’ as separate menu items and I admit I haven’t the first clue as to what they’d be stuffed with. Maybe just cream cheese, no ‘crab’? One place has ‘fried wonton cheese & crabmeat’ in addition to crab rangoon, not sure what the difference is there.

Fried wontons, in my experience, are just that. Wontons, fried. No filling at all.

No idea what the difference between crab rangoon and friend wonton cheese & crabmeat is, but you do realize that now you have to order both so you can report back, right?

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Fried wontons, in my experience, are just that. Wontons, fried. No filling at all.

Fried wontons and pan-fried wontons, 'round these parts, are stuffed with minced pork, just like the wontons in wonton soup. They come with a dipping sauce of soy, rice vinegar, and scallion.

You can also get pork-stuffed wontons in sesame sauce – the same stuff that goes on the standard noodles in sesame sauce, but perked up with a little red pepper.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/58 "2017-01-28T21:23:54Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Fried wontons, in my experience, are just that. Wontons, fried. No filling at all.

This is the great wonton coin-flip. _Some_, like 45-50% are indeed mere wonton shells, fried. _Some_, like 45-50%, are wonton shells with a little twist and a smallish, but delicious smidgeon of pork filling embedded in the very center. And a very few IME, a precious darling few, are almost half pork filling in a crunchy fried wonton shell.

You never know what restaurant will have which until you order them :).

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/59 "2017-01-28T21:31:43Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> _Some_, like 45-50%, are wonton shells with a little twist and a smallish, but delicious smidgeon of pork filling embedded in the very center. And a very few IME, a precious darling few, are almost half pork filling in a crunchy fried wonton shell.

Ah, here, those are pork wontons.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-monster-eats-cream-cheese-wontons/778305/60 "2017-01-28T21:56:46Z")

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Unfilled fried dough makes sense. One of these places has 10 pcs for $1.75 so the expectations could hardly be lower.

I don’t think any of my local places would have anything like house-made dipping sauces, even a simple soy/vinegar mix. Think a transparent packet of salty brown water, two if you request ‘extra.’

To be honest, I’m more of an eggroll guy when it comes to cheap Chinese carryout.

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