# What kind of twisted mind do you need to spike a stranger's drink? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 26, 2004, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242 "2004-05-26T21:35:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/21 "2004-05-27T14:00:38Z")
We once thought the wife had her drink spiked. She went to a bar she knew well and after only two drinks, (Vodka and Cranberry) she was really, really knocked flat. Turned out that when she wasn’t looking the bartender was topping off her drink. So she didn’t have just two but about six of them. As to the OP. I wonder if it was Xtacy if it didn’t get some cross-contamination from other drugs the dealer had. Or if maybe, she started to realize that ‘Hey, I think my drink was spiked’ and then sort of self-induced the hallucinations. Just thinking that is what is supposed to happen if you were given drugs. ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/22 "2004-05-27T14:12:34Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > Why didn’t the hospital run a test to determine exactly what was put in her drink? That isn’t always possible, believe it or not. Some of these drugs don’t leave identifiable markers in your system. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/23 "2004-05-27T15:10:47Z")
would a low dose of Rohypnol produce those effects? ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/24 "2004-05-27T15:22:36Z")
> [@Cerri](#): > > I’ve had it happen to me three times, all when I was at work. (I’m a dancer in a gentlemen’s club). Twice it was customers that did it (liquid acid both times…even though I haven’t tripped for damn near 12 years, I can remember what it felt like), and amazingly enough, once was an _fellow dancer_ who when later questioned about it (since she was the last person I was sitting around, I’d asked her if she saw anything) “thought everyone did X, and figured I’d like the 2 hits she put in my champagne as a surprise” > > She then mentioned how I didn’t even owe her anything for em, since someone had given them to her for nothing. You can’t go wrong underestimating how _really_ clueless some dancers can be, honestly. > > It was a good thing my friend was there, because she was really the only thing that stopped me from attempting to beat some modicum of common sense into her. > > But, I digress. > > The important lesson to be learned here, is NEVER accept a drink or shot from anyone who isn’t your waitress or bartender, and never, ever, _EVER_ leave your drink sitting anywhere unattended. Not even for a second. > > If I have to go to the bathroom, I bring it with me. If I need to run to the dressing room, it goes with me. If I have to go on stage, the drink comes with me. If I get from a table and move 2 feet away for a minute, my drink comes with me. > > If I forget and leave a drink at a table for any reason, I get a new one one when I go back to the table, period. That will NEVER happen to me again, if I have anything to do with it. The same thing happened to a friend of mine, she was at work and some guy slipped her methampetamine. I have no idea what the motive behind that would be. Downers, I can see, but why give someone speed? I think it was just to be malicious. The rest of your post is good advice. Never, ever leave your drink sitting on a table, not even for a second. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/25 "2004-05-27T16:08:29Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Hell, isn’t that how Jeffrey Dahmer started out? Drugging guy’s drinks and then shagging them after they passed out? [Seems he started out giving acid baths to roadkill](http://www.derfcity.com/crap/jd1.html). ---
**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/26 "2004-05-27T17:10:48Z")
> [@AngelicGemma](#): > > My male cousin had his drink spiked with heroin a few months ago. Wow, and here I thought you had to inject or inhale it. A quick Google reveals that it’s an inefficient way to take it, but then, you can’t “secretly” inject a total stranger. Hope he’s fine. ---
**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/27 "2004-05-27T17:26:01Z")
A couple bars and pubs here in San Jose have testing devices in the form of coasters. The Brittania Arms pub is the first place I’ve heard of them doing this. They’re designed to test for date rape drugs including Ketamine, GHB, and a few others. Personally I think its peace of mind. I had a sobering experience a year ago when I went to a club in San Francisco. They were having a ‘cult’ theme that night, and one thing they did was to give all the entrants a mock communion with cookies and fruit punch. It didn’t occurr to me until after my friend pointed it out afterward that they could have put _anything_ in those cookies and punch, particularly given the rampant drug use that went on all that night. I was okay, but I felt like a dolt for just stupidly gobbling up these morsels people are shoving in my face ☹ ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/28 "2004-05-27T17:26:17Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > … A blackcurrent cocktail might be enough to hide the taste, especially if it weren’t the first… The OP didn’t say it was a cocktail (alcoholic drink) but a cordial. People I’ve met from Ireland (like the OP) and Australia use the term cordial to refer to non-alcoholic sweet drinks. Stuff like the Italian Sodas (sweet syrups diluted with carbonated water) that were really popular a few years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/29 "2004-05-27T20:01:47Z")
> [@ruadh](#): > > That isn’t always possible, believe it or not. Some of these drugs don’t leave identifiable markers in your system. I thought that they do, but only for a limited amount of time? If it was only a couples hours later that she was taken to the hospital I would think they could still test and find what it was. I could be offbase, but I seem to recall that most drugs used to spike drinks can be tested for within a certain amount of time and be identified, but after that amount of time they would be metabolized. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/30 "2004-05-27T20:43:01Z")
> [@The Devil's Grandmother](#): > > The OP didn’t say it was a cocktail (alcoholic drink) but a cordial. Whoopsie. I guess that would fit with the several mentions of her being the designated driver for the night. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/31 "2004-05-27T21:04:12Z")
I’d just like to say that my thoughts are with - and for - the young lady. I hope she recovers quickly and there are no long-term psychological scars. ---
**Author:** ![Marathon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7cd45c/32.png) [@Marathon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marathon)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/32 "2004-05-27T21:22:18Z")
> [@EJsGirl](#): > > Gentlemen, you should be paying attention to this discussion, too. This is not a “ladies-only” topic. Yup. Speaking as a gentleman who has experienced this, I’d agree. I’ve heard plenty of anecdotes about this type of thing occurring, but it still didn’t occur to me to really look out for it until it happened. It was actually pretty embarrassing - I was about 1/3 through my second drink when it hit, all at once. Blurred vision, greater and greater difficulty holding myself upright, cold sweats. I realized something was wrong and hopped in a cab to get home, and started vomiting during the cab ride. Last thing I remember is walking down the path that leads to my apartment…suddenly it was 8 AM the next morning and I woke up on my living room floor. I’m just glad I got out of there and home by myself. Haven’t been to very many clubs since. ---
**Author:** ![WILLASS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/54ee81/32.png) [@WILLASS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WILLASS)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/33 "2004-05-27T21:46:03Z")
Sounds like ketamine to me although the person who spiked her might have had X that contained ketamine as it is commonly sold as X often mixed with speed. I can tell you that ketamine could very easily induce true hallucinations when taken orally, at high doses you can wander around in a completely alternative reality. It usually has tranquilising effects but can be wildly unpredictable and can often have the opposite effect and when mixed with LSD the effects are multiplied with the added ‘bonus’ that you will be wide awake but wandering around absolutely off your face, in short it is a pretty fucked up drug. I really wonder at the stupidity of some people. With regards to those drink testing kits I can’t see why it wouldn’t be more cost effective just to buy another drink rather than bother testing it - self drug test kits are nearly always rubbish. ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/34 "2004-05-27T22:01:13Z")
> [@EJsGirl](#): > > Ketamine is a horse tranq. Not very good for you, but people do take it. I have a hard and fast policy: I don’t do veterinary drugs. It ain’t rocket science–it’s chemistry! ---
**Author:** ![WILLASS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/54ee81/32.png) [@WILLASS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WILLASS)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/35 "2004-05-27T22:22:59Z")
Ketamine isn’t strictly a vetinary drug. It is used as a tranquiliser when lowering the heart rate would be dangerous; I believe it is used at roadside accidents to amputate limbs. When taken IM or IV it is an effective tranq. without any of the hallucinations associated with snorting or taking orally. ---
**Author:** ![Tentacle\_Monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@Tentacle\_Monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tentacle_Monster)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2004, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/36 "2004-05-27T23:45:01Z")
**Jervoise** : Many of the drugs which _do_ leave a trace in urine don’t do so for long. If there were so much as a day between ingestion and testing, it could have washed out in the meantime. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2004, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/37 "2004-05-28T19:40:50Z")
Spiking a drink with _heroin_?!? I don’t mean to be rude, but what the hell? What kind of twisted mind to you need to waste expensive drugs on newbies who didn’t ask for them?!? OK, sorry, but that just sounds so strange. If I want to rape or rob an unconscious person (and where’s the sport in that?), I think I would want something cheap that causes very quick unconsciousness. While the person might nod out on the heroin, that’s not always the case. PS- obviously, the “sporting” reference above is not meant to be taken seriously. I would never condone the invasion of someone’s person in either of those ways. ---
**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2004, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/38 "2004-05-30T20:03:17Z")
> [@Jurph](#): > > Wow, and here I thought you had to inject or inhale it. A quick Google reveals that it’s an inefficient way to take it, but then, you can’t “secretly” inject a total stranger. Hope he’s fine. Thanks. And he’s fine. Although unsuprisingly, he avoided alcohol for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2004, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/39 "2004-05-31T02:13:15Z")
> [@EJsGirl](#): > > What kind of twisted mind to you need to waste expensive drugs on newbies who didn’t ask for them?!? Well, it could be to get them hooked on the very expensive drugs so you can make lots of money selling them to the new addicts Also, heroin isn’t as expensive as it used to be. And it doesn’t have to be heroin - more likely it was another opiate. They’re all chemically related with similar effects (and different dosages). Something like oxycontin crushed up and put in a drink would have a very similar effect. Drug addicts have a very fucked up sense of “humor”. At the clinic where I used to work one of our ladies had her first experience with IV drugs when her father and his friends - all higher than a kite at the time - though it would be funny to inject some heroin into his eight year old daughter just to see what would happen. 10 years later, his daughter in rehab alongside him, he would still get the giggles when talking about his daughter’s “first time”. And, finally, there ARE sick fucks out there would would quite happily contribute to someone’s severe injury or death just their their own sick, twisted amusement. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242/40 "2004-05-31T02:19:06Z")
Yet another example of why avoiding the bar scene has been my policy for more than a decade. Ugh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-twisted-mind-do-you-need-to-spike-a-strangers-drink/247242.md?page=3)